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Lilibet Diana — what do we think?

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BabyBabyOh · 06/06/2021 17:16

Harry and Megan have announced the birth of their little girl. Thoughts on the name?

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Maggiesfarm · 18/06/2021 01:42

I agree, Sunglasses. Anyway it's nobody else's business what they call their children. I just hope they are happy in their new life and when travel is allowed again more easily, that we see them over here from time to time.

sunglassesonthetable · 14/06/2021 15:21

They are making a life for themselves with Archie and Baby Lili and unless the gutter press fixates on this, I doubt it will even be thought about in years to come.

Exactly.

Roussette · 14/06/2021 10:54

Course it won't be referenced in controversy for years to come, that's really not going to happen!
They are making a life for themselves with Archie and Baby Lili and unless the gutter press fixates on this, I doubt it will even be thought about in years to come.

Port1aCastis · 14/06/2021 08:20

I'm very much on the side of common decency and leaving new parents with their new baby alone, who else could take the level of vile abuse that has been directed at parents of a new baby, although as usual I suspect those that dish it out could not take it back

sunglassesonthetable · 14/06/2021 07:45

While I'm very much on the side of what the hell where MM and PH thinking (merchandising the name), I feel very sorry for Lili. It's a big name to inherit and one which will be referenced to controversy for years to come.

😂😂😂😂 Honestly seen it all now.

Maggiesfarm · 14/06/2021 02:44

It's all right, quite cute really. Not my sort of name but it isn't my kid. I daresay she'll be called 'Lili' which I do like.

YellowMonday · 14/06/2021 00:57

While I'm very much on the side of what the hell where MM and PH thinking (merchandising the name), I feel very sorry for Lili. It's a big name to inherit and one which will be referenced to controversy for years to come.

Port1aCastis · 13/06/2021 20:14

Yep it's all wild speculation and some of it quite nasty

sunglassesonthetable · 13/06/2021 17:39

The point is someone said that lots of grandmothers would be delighted if their nickname were used for a great grandchild, I was simply pointing out they may be less delighted if it's in the context of the child's parents slagging them off publicly. What other people or papers might be doing is totally irrelevant in that context.

Yep. It's true.

QE2 might be pissed off just as much as she might not.

Doria might feel left out or she might not.

Lilibet is a loving tribute or it's a shameless overstepping of the mark.

It's all super speculation and going round in circles.

Zzelda · 13/06/2021 17:27

@Port1aCastis

They haven't banged on half as much as the gutter press who have managed to bitch slander and spread hate about them for months and I expect 99% of the media onslaught is fabricated
The point is someone said that lots of grandmothers would be delighted if their nickname were used for a great grandchild, I was simply pointing out they may be less delighted if it's in the context of the child's parents slagging them off publicly. What other people or papers might be doing is totally irrelevant in that context.
RickiTarr · 13/06/2021 13:19

But they banged on about Charles' dysfunctional upbringing

Charles banged on about it himself so they aren't doing anything he hasn't done.

That’s a difference worth at least considering, though, isn’t it? Telling your own story in public versus telling someone else’s. This is highly personal stuff and clearly there has been some upset in the family, in more than one generation, so feelings are tender.

We have some eccentric branches to my family, some “interesting” choices, some repeated patterns, and as a result some of my relations had unconventional childhoods.

My gut feeling is that - if for some reason I/we were media worthy and the interviewer knew enough to ask about these eccentricities - I would feel entitled to speak about my own (distant, diluted) experience of it but not, for example, about my parent’s, grandparent’s or sibling’s thoughts on or experience of it.

If I were to write about the whole saga, for publication, I’d only do it after the older generation were dead.

Different if you’re chatting privately to your friend or your spouse about patterns you can see repeated through the generations, of course. Similarly, if you’re writing a private family history for family members only.

If I were likely to actually give such an interview, I think about where the line is even more carefully than I am now.

I think it is hard, really, for most people to imagine being famous and the ramifications of that.

Port1aCastis · 13/06/2021 13:09

Maybe Mrs Ragland didn't want grandchildren named after her who knows certainly not Mn, but any stick will do to beat a new Mum and her baby hey

SionnachRua · 13/06/2021 13:07

@Shehasadiamondinthesky

My overwhelming thought is what about Doria? She must be so hurt she hasn't been remembered at all. She has done nothing wrong and has always been there quiet and dignified for her daughter. Both names are from the family they say was totally dysfunctional and destroyed them. It's absolutely bonkers. In any other situation the name would be cute but in this situation it's just WTF.
Doria gets to have a relationship with this baby, Diana does not (and presumably the Queen won't have much time with her either). All things considered I'd say Doria is quite happy not to be in Diana's shoes.
Roussette · 13/06/2021 12:51

Even if Doria didn't want that, or M&H didn't like the name?

So many posters on here have posted again and again and again saying what they consider are suitable names for this little baby, someone else's child.

I wouldn't dream of saying to anyone ... whoever they are... why didn't you call your baby this, that or the other. But I suppose they're M&H so fair game for this idiocy.

Violetlavenders · 13/06/2021 12:43

This is so weird. Other posters have said this. Is there an obligation to do this? No. They see Doria all the time, why do they have to use her name?

They gave their dd two names, both coming from the Royal family. It feels like a conscious decision.

It would have been nice to give their dd a name to honour Meghan's family too.

Port1aCastis · 13/06/2021 11:02

They haven't banged on half as much as the gutter press who have managed to bitch slander and spread hate about them for months and I expect 99% of the media onslaught is fabricated

Roussette · 13/06/2021 10:37

But they banged on about Charles' dysfunctional upbringing

Charles banged on about it himself so they aren't doing anything he hasn't done.

My overwhelming thought is what about Doria? She must be so hurt she hasn't been remembered at all. She has done nothing wrong and has always been there quiet and dignified for her daughter

This is so weird. Other posters have said this. Is there an obligation to do this? No. They see Doria all the time, why do they have to use her name?

Why are you saying... she has done nothing wrong... that is inferring H&M must think she has because they haven't used her name?
Maybe she doesn't want them to, maybe they just don't like the name? Why would she be hurt? Do you honestly imagine Meghan doesn't talk to her mother at all?!
My DM has two pretty awful names, whatever I think of her, I wouldn't be using them!!

LadyEloise · 13/06/2021 10:30

I agree Shehasadiamondinthesky.

Shehasadiamondinthesky · 13/06/2021 10:08

My overwhelming thought is what about Doria? She must be so hurt she hasn't been remembered at all. She has done nothing wrong and has always been there quiet and dignified for her daughter.
Both names are from the family they say was totally dysfunctional and destroyed them.
It's absolutely bonkers.
In any other situation the name would be cute but in this situation it's just WTF.

LadyEloise · 13/06/2021 10:04

@AdaColeman wrote "I'm not keen on the name itself. Elizabeth is much nicer....But I do think that it's odd that a couple apparently seeking a more private life, should give their daughter such an instantly recognisable name."

I totally agree. Hopefully they'll stick to Lili as they said.

Zzelda · 13/06/2021 09:38

@sunglassesonthetable

Not sure that lots of grandmothers would love it if the grandchild concerned has just been broadcasting to the world how dreadful they and their family are.

You know that new little baby has done nothing except be born. And regardless of any thing, the only presumption I'm making on QE2's behalf is that she loves it.

The baby isn't the grandchild who's been slagging off the family, she's a great grandchild. I don't doubt that the queen loves her great grandchild, that doesn't automatically mean that she loves what the great grandchild's parents have done.
Zzelda · 13/06/2021 09:36

@Roussette

Not sure that lots of grandmothers would love it if the grandchild concerned has just been broadcasting to the world how dreadful they and their family are

Good job they didn't do that then. It's been said here endlessly that H&M said nothing against the Queen.

But they banged on about Charles' dysfunctional upbringing. They could pay lip service to their love for the Queen as much as they like, that doesn't change the fact that there was a heavy implication that she was a poor parent. Plus, of course, if someone criticises people you love so publicly, it's not much comfort that they've tried to leave you out of the shitshow.
sunglassesonthetable · 12/06/2021 10:30

Not sure that lots of grandmothers would love it if the grandchild concerned has just been broadcasting to the world how dreadful they and their family are.

You know that new little baby has done nothing except be born. And regardless of any thing, the only presumption I'm making on QE2's behalf is that she loves it.

AdaColeman · 12/06/2021 08:51

I'm not keen on the name itself, Elizabeth is much nicer I think. But I do think that it's odd that a couple apparently seeking a more private life, should give their daughter such an instantly recognisable name.

Roussette · 12/06/2021 08:35

Not sure that lots of grandmothers would love it if the grandchild concerned has just been broadcasting to the world how dreadful they and their family are

Good job they didn't do that then. It's been said here endlessly that H&M said nothing against the Queen.