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Aine or Grainne

63 replies

Greendaisydays · 05/05/2021 20:09

Aine (Awn-ya)
Grainne (Grawn-ya)

Or should we play safe now we are in England
Selene
Xanthe
Elowen
Elodie

Or what are people’s favourites. I would quite like nature or Celtic names

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LizzieAnt · 07/05/2021 11:33

Love the name Áine OP.

SeanChailleach is correct in saying that á is not pronounced as aw in Ulster. Áine is said differently in the north and south of Ireland as a result. I say Áwn-yeh myself.

@SeanChailleach
doegen.ie/LA_1070d2is a recording of Seán Ó Conaill from Co. Kerry reciting An tÁivé Máiria in 1928. He is definitely saying "ah" not "aw".

Accents are funny though aren't they? I just listened to that recording by Seán Ó Conaill and to my ear he is clearly saying 'aw' for á.. it's the same sound I'd use in yawn or awning.

I'm a bit confused about cás rhyming with farce etc as given in TYI...is that a different pronunciation to the one given for Munster in the link here @SeanChailleach?
www.teanglann.ie/en/gram/c%C3%A1s
Similarly áit...

Puntastic · 07/05/2021 11:04

@SeanChailleach

I love both names, absolute classics. Flowers

I'm puzzled by people saying á is only pronounced "aw". teanglann.ie has "grá" is "ah" in Ulster, "aw" in Connacht and Munster, however, the 1961 version of "Teach Yourself Irish" gives the following West Munster dialect pronunciations:
áit like Eng. "art" (but with palatal t)
cás rhymes with Eng. "farce"
The recordings that go with TYI match this - the author meant the way art and farce are pronounced in RP English, with a silent r.

doegen.ie/LA_1070d2 is a recording of Seán Ó Conaill from Co. Kerry reciting An tÁivé Máiria in 1928. He is definitely saying "ah" not "aw".

I love doegen.ie (voice recordings) and dúchas.ie (stories written in the most gorgeous handwritings) - if you love Irish, take a look.

I think people have just gone with the pronunciations the OP gave, because the OP gave them so presumably they're the ones she'd use.
SeanChailleach · 07/05/2021 10:32

I love both names, absolute classics. Flowers

I'm puzzled by people saying á is only pronounced "aw". teanglann.ie has "grá" is "ah" in Ulster, "aw" in Connacht and Munster, however, the 1961 version of "Teach Yourself Irish" gives the following West Munster dialect pronunciations:
áit like Eng. "art" (but with palatal t)
cás rhymes with Eng. "farce"
The recordings that go with TYI match this - the author meant the way art and farce are pronounced in RP English, with a silent r.

doegen.ie/LA_1070d2 is a recording of Seán Ó Conaill from Co. Kerry reciting An tÁivé Máiria in 1928. He is definitely saying "ah" not "aw".

I love doegen.ie (voice recordings) and dúchas.ie (stories written in the most gorgeous handwritings) - if you love Irish, take a look.

MooseMoose · 06/05/2021 23:09

Aine is quite nice, though personally I prefer the look and sound of Anya. I really dislike Grainne - reminds me of grain or groin. Saoirse is my favourite Irish name. I also really like Fiadh.

Selene - ok, much prefer Serena or Sabrina
Xanthe - ok, prefer Thea
Elowen - looks pretty written down, but I find it quite clunky to say
Elodie - ok

How about:

Eira
Eleri
Ffion
Imogen
Rosalie
Iris
Sylvie / Sylvia
Fern

Frankiefarr · 06/05/2021 17:07

Áine I've always liked but then I got shot down in flames for liking Siriol a Welsh name everyone claims they can't say!

ILoveShula · 06/05/2021 11:24

Aoife presumably.

romdowa · 06/05/2021 10:50

@postern well then my child due in the winter is in for a life time of misery. Weve picked an unusual irish name if it's a boy and we actually got quite a surprise to see our girls name in the Irish top 10 for last year. My kids are also going to be stuck with a traditional cornish surname😂😂 I've every confidence they will survive having to tell people how to pronounce their names.

Ginandplatonic · 06/05/2021 10:39

Áine. I don’t like the “Grawn” sound of Gráinne.

Also like Selene (but would be mispronounced as Sel-een I suspect) and Xanthe. El- names seem a bit overdone compared to your other more interesting options.

ShoppingPrecinctPrincess · 06/05/2021 10:32

'the proximity of Gráinne to ‘gránna’ bothers me slightly.'

Agree with this.

MercyBodle · 06/05/2021 07:07

I'm not in the UK but know both Áine and Gráinne and how to pronounce them. I like both, particularly Gráinne. I also like Xanthe, Elowen and Elodie - particularly Elowen. I'd narrow it down to Elowen, Gráinne and Áine in that order.

NellWilsonsWhiteHair · 06/05/2021 06:03

Out of step with the rest of the thread, I love Gráinne!
Áine is lovely too though.
I’m in London and have met women with both names.

Postern · 06/05/2021 06:03

I don’t think it is that weird, @romdowa, given that threads on Irish names on Mn always go the same way, as a pp said, and are full of posters saying they don’t know how to pronounce Run of the Mill Irish Name X, therefore no one else will and the child will be bullied at school, left out at work, and die alone eaten by her cats etc etc.

Having said that, DS, born in England, has an unusual Irish name and surname and never experienced problems, so I hope Mn is just particularly close-minded.

Like you, I’ve met Áines and Gráinnes from all over Ireland, and I’ve lived longterm in Cork and Galway, and they’ve only ever been Grawn-yuh and Awn-yuh.

Not wildly enthused by either, tbh. Would chooseÁine at a push, as the proximity of Gráinne to ‘gránna’ bothers me slightly. And too much Tóraíocht D and G in my schooldays... Grin

Puntastic · 06/05/2021 05:53

I wouldn't be picking a girl's name containing 'Grawn'.

Makes me think of the guardian newspaper (though that's Graun) and is not a pretty sound.

mathanxiety · 06/05/2021 05:47

Áine. Gráinne is very old fashioned.

I like Elowen too.

What about
Lowenna
Carys
Nerys
Nessa/Neassa
Nora
Muireann

IamnotwhouthinkIam · 05/05/2021 23:21

Aine is my fave of the two - although I pronounce it Arn- yah.

Of your other choices I really like Xanthe and it has the bonus of likely avoiding the pronunciations issues of your other choices (except quite popular Elodie). Selene will be Seh- leen and Elowen likely L.O.N - so you'd have to not mind that (I think you/DD might get fed up of correcting people otherwise).

SelkieFly · 05/05/2021 22:31

Aine Grace

M0rT · 05/05/2021 22:30

I like Áine but I worked for an English company with an Áine on my team and none of them, from any part of the country could say her name right.
Elowen is lovely.

Seldon · 05/05/2021 22:20

Are the other 4 names safe? They’re lovely names, but safe names in England are Sophie and Alice

ILoveStickers · 05/05/2021 21:15

Caoimhe is lovely, and much better known than the others if you're worried about pronunciation.

But I still like Áine best!

checkcheck55 · 05/05/2021 21:14

I would play it safe. I had a client called Grannie and I could never remember how to pronounce her name, all I would think was Grannie. I do like Selene or Xanthe the most. Neave (sorry not sure in correct spelling ) is a sweet name

Chilldonaldchill · 05/05/2021 21:12

I know how to spell and say Aine and Grainne (though I can't do the fada on my phone) despite not being Irish. I think Aine sounds prettier. DD is at school with a Grainne and it always reminds me of groin, possibly because the girls say it in a cross between awn and oyn somehow.
Caoimhe is lovely.
Selene, Elodie, Elowen and Xanthe are all gorgeous though and all (except possibly Elodie) quite unusual.
I love Elowen personally.

KirstenBlest · 05/05/2021 21:06

Elowen is El-OW-en not L O N.
I suspect it will get popular and the Elle-O-N pronunciation become common and you'll have another Ellie.

Selene - is it Sel-ee-nee or Sel-een? Won't people think it is spelt Celine.
Xanthe - is it Zanthy?

LesLavandes · 05/05/2021 20:51

No keen on Grainne

Greendaisydays · 05/05/2021 20:45

Selene would definitely be Se-lee-ni

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Greendaisydays · 05/05/2021 20:44

@CaffiSaliMali OH wanted Caoimhe and i like it too but thought it might be a step too far pronunciation wise so that’s interesting.

I like Elowen but again sister says sounds like L-O-N

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