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The rights to a name?

58 replies

cem90 · 06/04/2021 04:23

We are due with our 2nd daughter in a few months and have narrowed our choices down to 2 names.
We don't tell many people the options but my SIL asked (who I'm close to) so mentioned that one of the names we like is Sophia and that the middle name was going to be Isabelle (after my mum)
She then told me that her next baby name (she's not pregnant or trying) is Sophia Isabella (middle name after her grandmother) and that Sophia had been a potential for one of their current children and was definitely what they are calling their next child.
I told her that we had no idea and it's one of the few names we had both decided on (due to our jobs we are both fussy and it's taken us a long time to come up with two potential names we both like) she got a bit arsey and told me that she would be naming their next child that regardless of whether we do or not.
This was a few weeks back and I still like the name as a potential but now my husband thinks we should remove it from our two options to prevent any arguments.
In my mind though why should we change it - she doesn't have the rights to a name, we didn't know it was one they liked, she's not pregnant and as much as she wants another they don't know they will have one and even if they do who says it will be a girl anyway! If it was the other way round I'm positive they wouldn't change it for us.
The middle names will be similar regardless as they are family names but she and now my husband make me feel like I'm being out of order wanting Sophia as a potential name! But why should I remove it off my list?
Would love an outsiders perspective x

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Chelyanne · 07/04/2021 19:05

Balls to her. If you love the name then use it.

Our 3rd daughter and our niece share a middle name, ours is older. My SIL called her son one of the names we would have used if our twins had been boys. All our children's names begin with different letters so we wouldn't use it if we had another boy anyway. We are keeping current babys name a secret until after birth.

Standrewsschool · 07/04/2021 17:45

If you like it, use it. No-one owns a name. Plus she’s not even pregnant, may only have boys, or may change her mind.

FeedMeSantiago · 07/04/2021 17:23

If she liked the name so much she should have used it for one of her two existing DDs.

Also, Sophia is such a popular name anyone who uses it will expect to encounter others with the name.

So I wouldn't be inclined to change your name for a hypothetical daughter of someone who already has two daughters.

You'd still need DH to agree to use the name though!

GreyhoundG1rl · 07/04/2021 01:49

Ignore her Hmm. Name your baby whatever you please and let the silly madam do the same when her time comes.
That said; I'd be concerned at your dh suggesting you indulge her nonsense, what's that about?

cerealgamechanger · 07/04/2021 01:44

I reckon your names (lovely) hadn't even entered her thoughts but the minute she heard them, she loved them and tried to bagsy them. She's a CFer trying her luck. Ignore her and go ahead with your choices. She's the one that'll sound deranged when/IF she has another girl and keeps the exact name as yours (without switching them around). I guarantee she'll be bad mouthing anyone that she can get hold of and accuse you of 'stealing' her names. I'd keep schtum on anything else around her going forwards.

VanillaAndOrange · 07/04/2021 00:01

I don't think there's an issue here.

She's already said that she will still use that name even if you have used it, so she doesn't mind if there are two cousins with that name.

There's only a problem if you have a problem with it.

Historically, cousins often had the same names as people were usually named after relatives.

Please just use the name you like. She may well change her mind anyway before she needs another girl's name, but if she does go with the same name, there will be two children with the same first name, a fairly similar middle name which will rarely if ever be used, I'm guessing not with the same surname, and not in the same year at school (if they even go to the same school). It's not going to cause anyone any confusion or inconvenience.

May2021Mummy · 06/04/2021 21:15

@Crankley 😂😂😂😂

User135792468 · 06/04/2021 21:11

She has no right to get arsey. However, she is your sister in law so whilst you should still use Sophia, maybe change the middle name as it will look like you’re being spiteful (I’m not saying you are btw). She just said that she would still use the name, so be prepared for that if you use it. I, personally, would still use a name I loved even if a family member used it.

Crankley · 06/04/2021 21:05

May2021Mummy
@Crankley I've seen that episode people are crazy

So true, in one episode a black woman who was a 'tad' overweight, put on a strapless dress. Her boobs were overflowing and on seeing herself in the mirror, screamed 'Oh my God, I look just like Princess Diana!' Grin

May2021Mummy · 06/04/2021 18:54

@Crankley I've seen that episode people are crazy

Crankley · 06/04/2021 18:48

Sophia is a lovely name and it's no big deal for two cousins to share a name. Your SiL is being ridiculous - how many Sophia's does she think there are in the country? Plus she's not even pregnant plus even if she was it may not be a girl!

It reminds me of an episode of Say Yes To The Dress re bridal dresses. The bride to be arrived with mother and younger sister. Went into a room to try on one of the dresses, came out to ask opinions, to be told by sister 'if you choose that dress I will never speak to you again because that is the dress I want for my wedding.'

There was great puzzlement because she wasn't engaged, wasn't close to being engaged, she didn't even have a boyfriend!

GintyMcGinty · 06/04/2021 18:37

Use the name.

She might never have a girl, she might change her mind. Even if she doesn't plenty of families have similar or the same names.

May2021Mummy · 06/04/2021 18:33

I'd use it and tell her to do one - she's saving a name for an imaginary child she may not even have

Congratulations I think it's a lovely name choice

midnightstar66 · 06/04/2021 18:29

If she also calls her non existent baby Sophia then she'll have to get used to sharing it with others anyway. It's a very popular name, I know several.

TatianaBis · 06/04/2021 16:54

I would definitely use it now, even if I had been undecided before.

Don't let her bump you off a name! She may never have this imaginary girl.

IamnotwhouthinkIam · 06/04/2021 16:50

Keep Sophia - it's a very lovely and very popular name. Potentially having 2 cousins both named Sophia Isabelle isn't a huge deal imo - there are bound to to be lots of other Sophie's/Sofia's/Sophia's of a similar age they are going to run into (and nobody will know their middle names).

Your SIL is just annoyed you got there first, but who knows, by the time if/when she has a DD she could have gone off Sophia and you could regret not using it!

InsanelyPregnantAndSore · 06/04/2021 16:08

You cannot bag a name for a baby you’re not pregnant with or a gender you might never have.

SIL and I had kids at the same time.
Boys name wasn’t an issue.
We ended up pregnant with girls at the same though though and she considered our girls name briefly. I didn’t mind, didn’t have any issue but did make it clear it was our only choice and that we wouldn’t be changing our minds. I suggested different nicknames to make it easier on family to identify Grin

SIL changed her mind Grin I knew she would. I’m the kinda person who can see someone in the office wearing the same dress as me and be like ‘hey nice dress’. SIL would be mortified and not wear the dress again Grin... two types of people!

CandleWick4 · 06/04/2021 15:42

Agree with everyone else, use it. She’s the one who’ll look a bit odd if she has another daughter further down the line and gives her the same name as yours. She’s the one who’ll get the Hmm looks not you. Beautiful name - use it!

Edenember · 06/04/2021 15:22

Concur with what everyone else has said. I’d be narked at her putting you in such a horrible position though, not cool at all. DH needs to have a word. She’s being ridiculous.

NailsNeedDoing · 06/04/2021 13:00

Your baby actually exists, your SILs doesn’t. So while no one really has more rights to a name than anyone else, you definitely have more reason to take the name now.

As long as you don’t get upset if sil does use the same name if the time comes, which it probably won’t, then there’s no problem. Tell your husband to stop being silly.

EssentialHummus · 06/04/2021 12:57

ten I’d guess they both work with children Grin

tenlittlecygnets · 06/04/2021 12:56

(due to our jobs we are both fussy and it's taken us a long time to come up with two potential names we both like)

What about your jobs makes you fussy about choosing baby names? That really confused me!

But yanbu. You are pregnant so I'd go ahead and use the name. She doesn't own the rights to it. She's not even pg or ttc!

SardineJam · 06/04/2021 12:51

A school friend's cousin had the same first name and surname as friend, was a bit weird but it happens and who cares, they'll be in different school years, likely different friendship groups and different jobs later in life. No one owns a name, just do what you want

EssentialHummus · 06/04/2021 12:48

Right, so she’s had two opportunities to use these names and has decided against... yeah. All yours!

fruitbrewhaha · 06/04/2021 12:13

What a delight she is.

Use the name, she has no rights over it. And tell her she is very welcome to also call her daughter, if she has one, the same name as you also have no rights over it. It is completely up to her. And she will look like the idiot she is.

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