Sine?

@florascotia2 I’m an expat Scot living in the West Midlands. Knowing my friends and neighbours down here,I think their brains would implode trying to process Sine 😂 I think a lot of it depends on locality and where the name is used more.

I wasn’t “allowed” Alistair because it’s not common down here and DP wanted something more average. Went with a traditional name for DS which is a bit Scottish but more common.

@toucanem Orla is absolutely lovely. Classic.

Look, I know I live in a Gaelic heritage area of Scotland, but if people can learn how to say Sinead (which is Irish) they can surely learn how to say Sine. It's much simpler!

Up here, it's not an uncommon name. I know of three, locally.

Honestly? IMO Sine just doesn’t look pretty written down and nobody, and I mean nobody, will be able to pronounce it. You (and later on your poor DC) will be constantly telling people how to say it which is no fun.

Elin is absolutely gorgeous - could you go with that? Was on my name list but silly DP vetoed it.

Alternatives to Sine: Eilidh, Sinead, Orlaith, Shonagh?

Whatever individuals do, standard Gaelic pronounciation of names beginning 'Si' is almost always 'Sh' .
Just think. How would you say 'Siobhan'. or 'Sinead'?

Serena/Selena seena for short? Or spell in seena?

I live in Scotland and worked with a sine she pronounced hers seena

Not too keen tbh but my judgement may be clouded as she wasn't very nice lol

@gokartdillydilly, I have one of those too. People will read my name and try to fashion something out of it and get it a little bit wrong or quite a bit wrong, or they will tell me I'm wrong and that my first name is actually something else.

If it is a fair attempt, I let it go, but often they are quite rude and it can be upsetting.

It's annoying when people post misleading information.

There are very few 'native' Scottish Gaelic names still around. Aiffric/Effric, perhaps, and modern versions of Fionnghuala and Forbhlaith. But not names like Gruoch (=Lady Macbeth).

Sine is NOT an original Gaelic name. (Sorry, can't do fadas).

For hundreds of years, literally from the Middle Ages onwards, Gaelic- speaking Scots have used non-Gaelic names 'translated' into Gaelic. For a great resource on pre 1600 Gaelic names with numerous examples of this custom, please see here www.s-gabriel.org/names/scottish.shtml or, more specifically, medievalscotland.org/scotnames/gaelicgiven/women.shtml

That is the convention followed by the website I posted the link from. And that source really is as authoritative as you can get. It is, in their own words, "a partnership between Bòrd na Gàidhlig, MG ALBA, BBC ALBA, Bòrd na Ceiltis (Alba) and Sabhal Mòr Ostaig". That's all the leading Gaelic-language bodies in Scotland learngaelic.scot/about.jsp

Jean and Jane (and Joan and Jeanne etc etc) are different forms of the same name, anyway. They are the feminine of John, which is in origin a Hebrew name.

Also thought the Latin 'Without'. In most surviving Latin phrases that I can think of, it has a bit of a sense of lacking something (or a characteristic) that should be positive if you were to possess it.

I thought maybe this was a thread about a "sign" and you'd spelt it wrong

Please not Seona, you get called Seeowna all the time.

Shona or Sheen is fine.

I have a stupid first name that you have to spell out Every. Bloody. Time. It gets mispronounced, queried, and school registers were hilarious for everybody except me.

Doesn't Sine mean No in Latin?

It means "without"

I think your daughter will have a lifetime of asking her how to pronounce her name. I wouldn’t

Old Andrew Threw All His Cares Over His Shoulder?

Doesn't Sine mean No in Latin?

I would avoid giving a child a name that has to be forever spelled out and is often mispronounced

Especially by her parents!

It's Gaelic for Jean

It's really annoying when people say every Irish or Scottish or whatever name is a translation of an English one. They aren't. Síne is Irish for Síne.
(and if anything, it's closer to Jane)

I would avoid giving a child a name that has to be forever spelled out and is often mispronounced. It must be so frustrating having to keep correcting people when they get it wrong! Keep it simple is my motto 🙄

Do either of you speak gaelic? Do you live somewhere that people dk speak gaelic? I'm always confused as to why people call their children names that come from a different language when they don't speak it or live somewhere that people will know how to pronounce it.
I have a Scottish gaelic middle name, obviously I don't use it much because it's a middle name but it's not a very difficult one, and no one seems to know the correct way to pronounce it, even although I live in Scotland.

Shonagh, not Shongah.

I'm Scottish but I wouldn't call a child Sine since they would constantly get called Sign and it gets very tiresome. (I have a name that is almost always mispronounced).

How about:

Shona
Seona
Shongah (all pronounced Show-na)
Seonaid (Shaw-nuhd, a bit like Sinead in Irish)
Sheila
Shelagh
Sheena/gh

I am Irish and have taught many hundreds of students in Ireland and have never heard of the name Sine, but maybe it is Scottish.

If it is like the start of Sinéad it would be pronounced Shin.

I wouldnt give a baby a name I couldn't pronounce (but that's me 😅)

Made me think of Maths too, Sin, Cos, Tan. Not much of a name.