Name preference - Ffion or Felicity

It's not a translation, Paris - you'd be calling your baby son Sticks. Like walking sticks.

Oh love the Welsh translation! Ffyn!

or seeing as I'm a Welsh speaker, Ffyn, Ffiyn and Ffiwn.

Definitely not Ffion.

Yes, I say it a bit like fun, as I'm from Ulster. Basically, if you aren't from Ireland and you like the name Finn, the best bet might be to spell it Finn .

I listened to the 3 and one was how I'd say Fun,one was how I'd say Fyun, and the other was how I'd say Fune or Fewn.

It varies between different regions / dialects.

www.teanglann.ie/en/fuaim/fionn

It is not usually Finn as the English and Welsh would say it IME though.

@ParisJeTAime, thanks, but I don't really get it.Are you saying it's either Funn or Fionn rhymes with Yonn?

I prefer Felicity. I have known a few and they all had different nicknames.

Fliss
Fel
Flick
Liss

Fionn is not really pronounced Finn. In Ulster it is a bit like how they might say Finn, so with a but of an uh sound, like fun. Elsewhere in Ireland it is Fyon (all one syllable but with a clear 'y' sound). I am from Ulster.

@FunnyInjury, as pp, Ffion means Foxglove, so it would be a strange name for a boy.

There is a rugby player called Ffion warriors.co.uk/teams/ffion-lewis/

The wife of a former Tory party leader is a Ffion.

I have a relative called Ffion, she's female, as was the Ffion I was at school with.

Fionn, I think, is pronounced Fin.
Ffion is pronounced Fee-on.

Welshie here, Ffion is a fairly common (girls’) name where I live. It is most definitely a girls’ name and means foxglove.

I’d be very surprised if the rugby playing guy on Anglesey is actually called Ffion. It’s like being called Lily or Isabelle in England. My money is on him being Fionn (pn Finn and not a Welsh name).

I think op that the Ffion confusion in this thread probably shows that you should go for Felicity! Also think it goes really well with your other dd’s name.

I would assume Ffion was Welsh. But then once met a Geraint who wasn’t!

@FunnyInjury

All those saying Ffion is a girls name will be Welsh, where it is indeed overwhelmingly used as a girls name. I’ve never known a male Ffion or even heard of one. Male Ceri’s - lots over about 40 and Celyn’s - a fair few 30ish and older. Never a Ffion though.

Fionn, the Irish Gaelic name is a different name from a different language that just happens to sound similar.

I really like and would use both of them.

Beatrice and Felicity sounds very upper English middle class in a vintage sort of way.

Beatrice and Ffion more like you named them as individuals not a sibset, if you get what I mean?

Either way, both lovely names and both sound nice with Beatrice.

Felicity is my preference.

Do you mind having a Bea and a Fi?

Also if you go for Ffion, you could potentially have Bea and Fee??

Felicity with the nn Fliss is perfect with Beatrice/Bea. I do like Ffion too, but prefer Felicity!

Please don’t call her Ffion it gives me anxiety just reading the name 😅 There’s so many French people living in the UK especially if you live in London (and the Fanny I know was teased relentlessly when she was holidaying in England). All the other suggestions are really lovely, love Thea, love Philippa, love Felicity.
Sorry to bash one of the names you like I never ever do this except this once as of, as you say, your fear is that your French friends will raise eyebrows, believe me they will.
Xxx from a Frenchie

If you like the ‘f’ sound then Phoebe goes well with Beatrice? Felicia would give different nn options to Felicity. Or how about Frances/Francesca?

My dd is Felicity, known as Flossie or Flo. Can't stand Flick!

Ffion is lovely and I think English (and other people) could cope with it.

Btw Ffion Hague was definitely Welsh.

Oh Philippa is lovely too!

Have you considered Philippa? Or even just Pippa?

I love Ffion but Felicity is really not for me.

I prefer Ffion to Felicity generally speaking. I have a relative called Ffion (in a very Welsh speaking area of Wales) and am not aware of her being teased about the French 'fion'.

However, Felicity goes better with Beatrice then Ffion IMO. Bea and Fliss sounds fine to me - surely you'd use the eldest child's name first so 'Bea and Flick' rather than 'Flick and Bea' even if she did go by Flick. Fliss is nicer as a shortening IMO, Flick has a slightly harsh sound.

Ffion is also quite a Welsh Welsh name so I would assume a Welsh connection or heritage. It's not a name like Owen or Megan which is so commonly used outside of Wales that you wouldn't automatically think 'ah, they must be Welsh'.

I have a Welsh name in England which I would say was similar to Ffion in terms of how Welsh it sounds. I get a lot of 'what's your Welsh connection?' questions (Welsh Mam). So bear in mind that you'll get asked that a lot.

I know a couple who recently had a baby daughter Ffion. They have some French extended family and apparently there were eyebrows raised at the name choice. So yes I think it is an issue in France...!