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Engaged - so who's last name to give?

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Delilah221 · 08/01/2021 12:28

Hi All,

Apologies if this is the wrong place to post, just wanted some advice!

We're currently TTC our first, and we got engaged around 3 weeks ago!

Basically - before we got engaged, I said to my OH that if we're not married when we have children, the baby would take my last name until we got married. (This was not a push for him to propose as i said this around 2 years ago!) I think it's fair as I would've carried them/birthed them and wouldn't like them having a different last name to me. (This may sound childish/selfish i know)

I also am confused as to how it would work at hospital/docs when your baby has a different last name to you?

However, as we are now engaged and looking to get married in 2022, I'm unsure as to what sure name to give our future bubba? My gut is saying to give them my last name until we marry, and then update both mine and babies name on the birth certificate once we get married. But on the flip side, should i give them my OH's last name and just update mine when we get married? I have no doubt that the wedding wouldn't happen (If it didn't it would be down to Covid, not us deciding not to lol)

I appreciate this may sound ridiculous to some as we're still TTC and don't have a baby on the way yet. It's just something that has been on my mind for a while and having a different last name to my own child is something i feel quite strongly about.

Apologies for the lengthy post, any help/advice would be great!

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Disfordarkchocolate · 08/01/2021 14:27

Your name always if you aren't married.

Delilah221 · 08/01/2021 14:26

@Metallicalover Exactly, it's different for everyone. Thank you for your response.

That's understandable, and if i was seeing it from the other-side i'd probably think the same. I think it was more getting it off my chest as it's been on my mind for ages. Oddly enough it wasn't an issue when we wasn't engaged as it was going to be my name. But with a wedding potentially in a year or so then i wasn't sure if i was being a bit unreasonable!

I agree it's no one else's business, guess i just wanted some input (First ever post, only been on here a day or so, but still expected a few negative comments lol)

I personally would've preferred that way round too, but with age etc we'd like to start TTC.

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GintyMcGinty · 08/01/2021 14:23

If you plan to change your name and baby's name after getting married then just give baby your partner's name now. It will be such a faff changing it.

VenusClapTrap · 08/01/2021 14:22

Your name till you are married.

There was a thread on here recently from someone who was regretting giving her dc her dh’s name, because despite being engaged for ten years he was still putting off getting married and coming up with excuses. She was sick of having a different name from her kids when she had told her OH right from the start that this was important to her. He had persuaded her that she might as well use his name, as soon they’d be married anyway. Then ten years passed.

She was gradually realising that he no longer had any intention of marrying her, because he had everything he wanted and there would always be higher family priorities for their money now. She was very bitter about it.

Metallicalover · 08/01/2021 13:49

With TTC it can be quick and it can be years! I know people who would have to overcome lots of health issues/obstacles to conceive, conceive straight away! Whereas myself no issues and unexplained infertility took 2.5 years.
I don't really understand the point of the original post tbh as if you feel that strongly about having the same surname to your child then give the child your surname. It's no one else's business and what you want to do. If your other half is happy with that then it's sorted.
We preferred to get married, share the same family name and then have a child. Everyone is different. But have a look at the legal side of things and rights prior to having a child if you aren't married.

LaVitaPuoEsserePiuBella · 08/01/2021 13:12

Whose

Delilah221 · 08/01/2021 13:10

@BiBabbles - Congrats on baby and getting married! I think we will hopefully do the same, and have a party when we can.

Another generic response to all:
In terms of taking my OH's name, I actually quite like that tradition. It's my own decision to take his name. I don't feel i am being forced to do so just because it's a tradition. I completely agree that you don't have to take your OH's name, and i wouldn't expect anyone to do so just because it's tradition. It's everyones own choice to decide what they want to do. And opinions are opinions, and just because you think one way, doesn't mean everyone should think the same.

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Delilah221 · 08/01/2021 13:05

Thanks again guys - I'll do a generic response to everyone:

I appreciate where you are all coming from and I also appreciate hearing everyones thoughts. To answer a few Q's :

  • We would be happy to have a registry office "official" wedding then just a reception when covid allows. As i have said previously, it's more his side of the family that are wanting a big weeding. ( I know i need to just do what's best for us)
  • The reason we're TTC now, is because it may take a long time. And many many people are still having children during this pandemic, i whilst i agree it's not fair to put more pressure on the NHS plus put myself/future baby in harms way for the sake of needing medical care. But i equally feel it is completely down to me when i decide I'm ready to TTC. And we are not expecting anthing to happen any time soon. And there will also be around 9 months between conceiving and actually giving birth too. I'm not giving birth tomorrow.

Thank you for all your responses I'll talk to my OH again and go from there. As my mind is set on elope/small registry office wedding now and a reception at some point in the future.

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BiBabbles · 08/01/2021 13:04

Another agreeing you should stick to your plan of your name until marriage. Your original reasoning is sound and convention is baby gets mum's name, it's just also convention that she's married and has the same name as the father.

I eloped, no one got upset though some questioned our choices. We were planning to have a big party on the one year anniversary, but we were dealing with our honeymoon baby at that point so pushed it back...we eventually had an anniversary party at the pub for our 10th Grin

Name changing can be a pain (I changed my entire name soon after marriage), but the vast majority of places do not care as long as your info lines up so just do it as things come up. I had a passport in the 'wrong' name for over a decade that I used as ID, even at banks. The only people who cared was the Home Office (and they didn't actually care, they'd use paperwork in other names with appropriate evidence, they just wouldn't refer to me by any other name than what was on my passport).

Delilah221 · 08/01/2021 12:56

@ivfbeenbusy - I know it shouldn't have but that did make me giggle. I completely appreciate where everyone is coming from with the whole waiting until married before TTC but we're ready to start a family and with personal complications it may take a while. So we're giving ourselves a chance to try and not rush it.

I am not in anyway oblivious to the obvious of things happening before we're married. But as i mentioned before, it's not a matter of 'If' we get married, it's more a "when" because of Covid.

I would just like to also say, I'm sorry if i have upset anyone who has gone through any of the things mentioned above. That really is horrible to have to go through.

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Ginevere · 08/01/2021 12:55

Why don’t you have a quick registry office wedding and then a big ‘wedding’ later if that’s what you and your OH want?

If that’s not and option, give the baby your name, 100%

FluffMagnet · 08/01/2021 12:54

To echo PP above, the hospital when you give birth refer to the baby as “baby Mother’s Surname” regardless as they need to match the two of you together. And if you get married after birth, you do have to reregister the baby as per the link. For me, I was married when I had the baby, but I hadn’t chosen to change my name on marriage. We gave DD both our surnames double barrelled, and it has never caused any trouble. Also, you can go by a different name socially without changing all the background ID if you really want. I.e. as a family we are happy being known socially as the double-barrellled name (personally I take issue with people choosing to rename me as just Mrs DH Name, because I have never expressed a willingness to be renamed as this), but all my life and professional documents as in my “true” name.

Lemonpiano · 08/01/2021 12:52

You know that changing your name is not obligatory, right? Have you given it more thought than "it's tradition" ?

It's baffling that you're more comfortable putting yourself in a position to need hospital/medical care during a pandemic than to prioritise marrying and put yourself through the medical stuff once the provision has improved and no longer risks your wellbeing needlessly.

sandandso · 08/01/2021 12:52

There's plenty of room between a big wedding and "eloping". Lots of people have had very nice, if necessarily small, weddings recently. Family and friends who haven't made the cut have understood.

insancerre · 08/01/2021 12:50

Just wait till you are married, then you won’t have all this hassle

CoffeeBeansGalore · 08/01/2021 12:50

Delay conception until after the wedding? Just have a small registry office service soon & a blessing/reception party later.
Or
Double barrel then, for everyday things, drop your surname to a middle name when you get married. If the wedding doesn't happen, baby still has your name within the surname. When child starts school you can tell them that child is known as Y, even though birth cert states XY.

ie Samuel Joseph DELILAH221JONES changes to Samuel Joseph Delilah221 JONES

Lemonpiano · 08/01/2021 12:49

Your name.

Poppyolive90 · 08/01/2021 12:49

Is there a reason you’re TTC now but not getting married until 2022? Would you perhaps have a legal wedding in a registry office now before you get pregnant and then have the big ‘wedding’ in 2022?

Also, 2022 is 12-23 months away. Have you booked and paid deposits? What if it takes you months to get pregnant and you end up pregnant for the wedding? You have no idea what pregnancy will be like for you, perhaps it’ll be lovely or maybe you’ll be unlucky and have HV and the wedding won’t be enjoyable. Just my thoughts on it, but I personally wouldn’t want to take any risks on a day I’m paying thousands for.

Delilah221 · 08/01/2021 12:49

Wow, thanks guys! Sorry was writing my last response when you all replied!

@burnoutbabe - My thoughts exactly!

@SnailortheWhale - I appreciate that's your personal opinion. But there are many reasons as to why we're TTC now. And had planned to start now regardless of married or not. But like yours, that's my personal preference. In all honesty, the main reason we wouldn't be married before any baby arrives is because of Covid. If we could've we would've got married this summer or something.
In terms of legalities/childcare/career etc, that is not something i see as an issue. I won't go into details, but that's not a concern for me. And i am aware you may think I'm being stupid but that's fine as you won't know the ins and outs of my relationship/personal life.

@DifficultBloodyWoman - Well i'd like to think those things wont happen! But i appreciate it's still a maybe. But that's on my shoulders.

I am dreading sorting out all paperwork with regards to changing my name! It's a headache just thinking about it!

I'd quite like to just go and get married by ourselves, I don't want the big wedding. I just want to be married, and be a family. (Cringe, i know) But i don't want to upset the family if we just elope! (Well elope to the closest registry office at this rate!)

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MoanerLisa2021 · 08/01/2021 12:48

I was engaged not married when I had my baby and they automatically used my name on everything at the hospital and doctors until I sent them the birth certificate which showed I had registered with her dad’s name (this was when she was 3mo due to Covid). I didn’t even think about registering her with my name tbh, probably just out of convention and the fact that eventually we will all have the same name.

sandandso · 08/01/2021 12:47

Apologies, I may be wrong about what happens when you re-register a birth... I didn't know that specific process existed! The form can be found online, which probably tells you what you need to know about that.

Melonportal · 08/01/2021 12:46

Give the baby your name now and then he changes his name when you get married?

sandandso · 08/01/2021 12:43

I don't think you would need to update your own name on the birth certificate. In fact, I don't think you are actually allowed to.

Completely agree with @SnailortheWhale - why not get married first and have that peace of mind? Then it will be done. Otherwise there will be no end of reasons to delay it... You're pregnant, you have a newborn, you're skint, you have another newborn... And the years roll by.

unusualcolours · 08/01/2021 12:43

Your name as you have to re-register the birth after you are married.

I got engaged and gave my child his name as thought it would be easier.

He's then cancelled our wedding and run off with a woman from work.

ivfbeenbusy · 08/01/2021 12:42

I would also say don't TTC until married either if you are young and likely to do it next year anyway....otherwise you'll just end up being another MN poster who is still engaged 10 years later with 4 kids

As for when you are in hospital having a baby- my friend who wasn't married when she had her baby - all Of the paperwork automatically referred to the baby having her surname even though when the baby was registered she gave him the dads surname. It wound the dad up so much I'm sure it spurred him on to get the wedding booked in double quick time 🤣

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