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Archie again

40 replies

Fredisbest · 05/12/2020 14:30

I have seen two posts on Archie now, very marmite name. Some hate and others love. I just wondered why the hatred?

I have one of my own who is now 25 so do not understand it does not work on an adult?
If anything I think of it as a slightly posh name.

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Rosesaresweet · 06/12/2020 11:43

I hate Archibald, especially the Arch sound.

Archie is a twee/cutesy.

But it's ok that we all have different tastes!

june2007 · 06/12/2020 00:18

" I,m Archie, the inventor. I know how things are done. I can make almost anything and making things is fun..."

Sausagedog1 · 05/12/2020 18:29

Archie isn't hated, it's very very popular. Last year 2500 babies were called it and it's 19th in popularity.
I have been on Mumsnet for 10 years, it is not representative of real life. The baby names threads are full of name enthusiasts that tend to hate name trends, people in the real world don't really care or notice these things.
Also Mumsnet is quite middle class and yes, snobby when it comes to names.
Your son has a lovely name, don't take much notice.

OrigamiPenguinArmy · 05/12/2020 18:04

I don’t love it or hate it. It was very popular in my area 10-15 years ago, along with similar names. When my now almost 13 year old DD started school she told my mum the boys in her class were “Freddie, Teddie, Alfie, Archie and Bertie” my mum asked her if she was at school with a word war one battalion (there were other boys in her class, most of them were called Jack).

DrSop · 05/12/2020 17:56

I think people become put off names after they become very popular/common, I.e if there are 10 of them in a year group (Alfie/Ava/Evie/everything hyphened with May).

I'm afraid around here it's considered a bit of a naughty child name.

I don't have anything against it personally, but like others I'm not keen on ie ending names.

Mamascoven · 05/12/2020 17:18

I dont hate the sound of the name, just how common it is where I am. I know 4 all under the age of 5.

FestiveChristmasLights · 05/12/2020 17:09

@SlightDrizzle

I was just thinking why I disliked male names in particular ending in ‘ie’, and I think it’s that to me they sound dog-rough — they remind me of Ronnie and Reggie Kray. I imagine a family of hoodlums called Archie, Alfie, Bertie, Frankie, Freddie etc.
They all sound like the names of dogs I know. I promise their owners are not rough though.
DivGirl · 05/12/2020 16:57

Definitely not posh. I dislike it, but but no more than I dislike all the other “ready made nickname” names like Archie, Charlie, Alfie, Evie.

They’re very common round here, and I do not live in a particularly nice area. Something about the “ay” sound being screamed across the Asda car park sets my teeth on edge.

emilybrontescorsett · 05/12/2020 16:49

Isn't it short for Arthur? I worked with an Archie years ago and he got called that because his wife hated Arthur. It's always struck me as very old fashioned but not in a classic, timeless way.
Not everybody likes the same names.
I definitely don't regard it as a posh name. Just another nickname type name along with all the other male 'ie' names such as Frankie, Freddie, Alfie, Albie, Ronnie, Reggie.

ImaSababa · 05/12/2020 16:33

Twee and try-hard!

gottakeeponmovin · 05/12/2020 16:27

I love the name

MikeUniformMike · 05/12/2020 16:27

FWIW, not many Georges in my age group but it was gaining popularity before PG was named. Quite a few Charlottes my age, so not surprised when PC was named. No Louis's my age but the name had gained popularity before PL was named.

AHM-W named, and I thought it was an odd choice as it already seemed dated and moved downwards through the classes.

The difference between a name like George and Archie is that there being lots of Georges doesn't make it seem dull (maybe because it's a 'safe' name anyway), whereas lots of Archies (or Noahs or Ezras etc) does.

I know an adult Theo and an adult Freya. The names were not out there but unusual enough to seem cool, but overuse has made them seem 'meh'.

LadyCottingham · 05/12/2020 16:24

It probably was a posh name but it's not at the moment. It's very much in with the Alfie, Ronnie, Sonny crowd. Probably because it's a shortened name.

You have asked for opinions and then you are tearing down people for giving them!

I think it's a good thing that people don't like the same names and the same art or music.

Nell96 · 05/12/2020 16:21

OP, I really don't think @SlightDrizzle is being snobby or particularly rude. You've asked why some people dislike the name Archie and people have told you. You may not like or agree with their opinions, but they're entitled to have them. I understand that you're a bit sensitive about this because it's the name you chose for your son, but you've said yourself that it's a bit of a 'marmite' name. Random strangers on the internet are always going to be more honest and open about their opinions than your friends, coworkers etc.- that's why these kind of forums can be really useful. But if you really love the name and have already chosen it, that's all that matters - it seems a bit pointless to get worked up about what other people think, it just doesn't matter.

MikeUniformMike · 05/12/2020 16:16

These threads usually have the form:

What do you think of the name [name that people either like a lot or dislike]?

If the reply is negative, the poster is criticised.
If the reply is positive, the poster is thanked.

MikeUniformMike · 05/12/2020 16:08

@Fredisbest, I find it strange how you ask an opinion then criticise someone for giving one.

I usually dislike names if I have witnessed the names being screeched out when I'm out and about, or if a child with that name is misbehaving or attention-seeking.

I might also dislike a name because I didn't like it when it seemed very dated.

Overpopularity tends to put me off names - it won't if the name is a classic one but it will if it is one that's been blown in from nowhere.

SlightDrizzle · 05/12/2020 16:04

Not on this thread! On other threads about this or similar names down the years, it’s come up. And seriously, if you can’t handle replies, I’d really recommend not asking ‘why the hatred’ for a name you’ve already used on a child you love on the Internet.

DS’s name is one of the less-used Biblical names.

Viviennemary · 05/12/2020 16:02

Not keen. Short for Archiebald which is dire.

june2007 · 05/12/2020 16:02

Don,t hate it, but generally not keen on shortenned versions, and it,s very popular at the moment. My grandpa was called archie for a while as his middle name was Archibald.

Fredisbest · 05/12/2020 15:57

@SlightDrizzle

Only one I can see calling names dog rough. Would be very intrigued at your DC’s name.
An opinion is an opinion but there is no need to be so rude

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SlightDrizzle · 05/12/2020 15:54

[quote Fredisbest]@SlightDrizzle

Well you sound like a raging snob[/quote]
No, from an extremely WC family of binmen and street sweepers, and you did ask why the dislike. I’m not the only one making the association either — I’ve seen it before on here.

MikeUniformMike · 05/12/2020 15:52

It used to be one of those names that seemed really old fashioned and not in a good way.

The actor Cary Grant's real name was Archibald, and it seemed an ugly name for such a handsome man. Then there was Archie on Emmerdale and he wasn't very nice, then in the late 1990s there was a Sunday night tv series, a sort of cut-price Downton Abbey, called Monarch of the Glen where the laird was called Archie and the love interest was called Alexandera/Lexi. Suddenly babies were being named Archie and Lexi.

A bit like Darcey only became popular after Strictly Come Dancing was launched.

The names having different versions Archie, Archibald, and even Archer (oh dear), Lexi/Alexander etc, and Darcey/Darcie/Darcy skews the popularity a bit but both Archie and Darcey became very popular.

I particularly don't like Darcey because it was a surname(Darcy, D'Arcy), with 'posh' associations, then it was the rather unusual name of a beautiful and talented ballerina, then, boom, there are Darceys everywhere. Surname + celebrity-inspired.

Many waves of name popularity can be traced back to a celebrity (Tracey/Debbie/Sean/Gary etc) and the names, about 20 years later seem dated.

Archie doesn't seem bad in a scottish accent, but I really dislike the way it gets shortened to Arch.

Lexi - sorry, but it rhyming with sexy makes it seem a bit seedy.

Fredisbest · 05/12/2020 15:50

@SlightDrizzle

Well you sound like a raging snob

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SlightDrizzle · 05/12/2020 15:45

I was just thinking why I disliked male names in particular ending in ‘ie’, and I think it’s that to me they sound dog-rough — they remind me of Ronnie and Reggie Kray. I imagine a family of hoodlums called Archie, Alfie, Bertie, Frankie, Freddie etc.

DramaAlpaca · 05/12/2020 15:38

Personally I don't like the sound of the 'arch' bit of it, combined with the 'ie' ending which I'm not keen on, particularly for boys' names. Also, I'm not one for using diminutives as full birth certificate names.

It's just personal taste. Other people's opinions shouldn't matter.

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