Enola for DD?

I have no idea what enola gay is!

Wow. I'm a bit shocked by that, but I realise that schools may not cover it these days. Personally, I think it's one of events in history that everyone should learn about it.

@AlexaShutUp no I've never heard of it, you understood correctly.

You have never heard of Hiroshima, CatRamsey? Please tell me that I have misunderstood your post.

I'm 24, I know the song by OMD (great tune!) but have never heard of the plane or Hiroshima... Some of these comments are making me think I should've heard of these!

I actually like how Enola sounds but I suppose it's whether you'd be happy with your child having these connections linked to their name.

How about Enora? It's a Breton name.

She should have stayed at home yesterday.

I think it strange that you think that makes the name even more attractive to be honest. Have you never given any thought to the lyrics of the song at all? Just listened to the music without really thinking about it?

Yes, musically it is an absolute belter and was a very big hit in the eighties. The words have very real meaning and resonance though and should not be ignored or dismissed. That is ignoring the history from which they are derived and potentially failing to remember the many thousands who died, and whose descendants still suffer today from the effects of that event.

Also, it's the word 'alone' spelled backward.
It's a bad luck name.

Sorry Balloonride - I clicked on the wrong quote.

Apologies.

However, the second, on Nagasaki, was totally unnecessary and a brutal and deliberate waste of the lives of countless women and children.

Even British troops who were near the "ground zero" of Hiroshima said it was a terrible thing to do.

The allies did it because the wanted to observe the widespread and long-term effects of their murderous weapon.

If they really were interested in preventing further loss of life, and justice, they would have bombed the railway lines leading to Auschwitz and the other camps, and the clearly marked gas chambers - details of which were supplied to them. They didn't, because it suited them to have troops tied up murdering Jews, gypsies, homosexuals and other undesirables, rather than risk them being sent to the front as combat troops. And they would not have protected the high level doctors and scientists (from both Germany and Japan) who had experimented on people because they wanted the details of the horrors they had inflicted - purely in the interest of science, I'm sure. [agnry]

Oh God. First though, Hiroshima. The negative association of that name will last longer than Little Boy's half-life: 700 million years.

There was a huge loss of life but not everybody would agree that it was an atrocity.

Having been to Hiroshima twice, and having actually spoken to one of the survivors about his experiences, I find it very, very difficult to understand how anyone could argue that this was not an atrocity. I can only assume that this comes from a place of ignorance about what happened.

Alone
Ebola
The Enola Gay

Definite no for me.

Enola Gay here too.

I'm in my 50s and an OMD fan in the 80s. The song made me aware of the history.

I wouldn't use the name tbh

Good lord.

Sure some people might not believe that nuking civilians is an atrocity.

People believe a lot of things. Doesn't mean they aren't talking bollocks though.

80k people died instantly with thousands literally vanishing leaving only shadows due to the heat of the bomb. 200k died in the next few days. Thousands were left with skin literally melted off. Millions died over the subsequent decades with various cancers caused by the bomb, including unborn babies developing leukaemia in the womb.

But according to @Bwlch it wasnt an atrocity.

Surely the bombing was a terrible atrocity with huge civilian loss of life?

There was a huge loss of life but not everybody would agree that it was an atrocity.

Sorry, first thought Ebola

My reaction on seeing the thread title was "fuck no!"

I also sung the OMD song to myself.

Surely the bombing was a terrible atrocity with huge civilian loss of life?

Well quite, Alexa.

I sang Enola Gay to myself straight away!

Are our teachers really saying to our children, arguably dropping nukes was the right thing and no big deal next to other stuff that went on?

I can't get my head round that at all.

Fucking hell at recognising the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki just being one a number of atrocities in the 20th century and arguably the right thing to do. And noting it as a singularly shocking action is a 'strong anti war message'.

From a person who teaches history in schools.

Well, fucking hell. And if that makes me sound like a teenager I don't care. Rather sound like a teenager than a. Well, I'll leave it there.