Enola for DD?

We were discussing the name of the plane, not the bombing

I think you'll find that we were discussing the bombing

Posters do know that the OP isn’t naming her child ‘Enola Gay’, just ‘Enola’?

Which is now going to be more associated with Enola Holmes.

I don't disagree with that, and it is not necessarily someone's fault if they don't know something, but I do think it matters because it does impact on their understanding of stuff. I don't think we can make informed decisions if we are not, well....informed. I'd bet that even the people who know what Hiroshima means don't particularly use this when they're making decisions on everyday politics. It night be a factor is different parties have different opinions on nuclear weapons but they're much more likely to be influenced by a million other things"closer to home" that affect their everyday lives. The idea that is a person doesn't know about this one thing then they're wandering around saying "dog" a lot and writing Trump on their courting skills because they're clearly so ignorant, which is what you'd expect from how some posters are carrying on,is absurd. I'm sure @ScarMatty had lots of other things she's aware of which enable her to make intelligent decisions about important issues

None of the other “stuff” they know will be as important though will it? Their opinions will be flawed because of the seismic gap in their knowledge.

Absolutely Enola Gay...

You shouldn't do this to your child. Even if your child is unaware of the connotations, it will reflect appallingly on you - either for your ignorance or your callousness. Neither are great looks!

Also in my 30s and have known about the Enola Gay since a young age. 80s child but never heard of the song, just the atrocity.

Quite shocked by the number of people on this thread a) learning what the Enola Gay was for the first time and b) STILL thinking it's OK to name a baby after an instrument of genocide. Are millennials really that desensitised to the pain of others? Sick...

We all come at life from our own experiences, the cards we’ve been dealt and the situations we find ourselves in. The decisions and views we hold reflect that.

I don't disagree with that, and it is not necessarily someone's fault if they don't know something, but I do think it matters because it does impact on their understanding of stuff. I don't think we can make informed decisions if we are not, well....informed.

Love it! Really nice name.

It’s like the brexit comments on here being related to not knowing about Hiroshima. They are pretty rude and judgemental.

We all come at life from our own experiences, the cards we’ve been dealt and the situations we find ourselves in. The decisions and views we hold reflect that.

I also think it depends how you’ve grown up.
So I grew up in a house where learning stopped at school, you didn’t carry that on outside. Picking up a history book or going to a museum was not the done thing.

That's actually a very fair point, EvilPea. It's very easy to take such perspectives for granted, but we shouldn't.

I also think it depends how you’ve grown up.
So I grew up in a house where learning stopped at school, you didn’t carry that on outside. Picking up a history book or going to a museum was not the done thing.

Now with children I do the opposite with them, we spend most holidays (BC!) at museums, I take the topics at school and go with that for days out to get a better base of knowledge for them.

Now I know the bomb existed, I know it brought about the end of the war but that’s it, I am probably not going to watch a documentary about it or read about it.

It’s a little bit like the google algorithms, which I find incredibly scary. They will only show you responses based on what you’ve previously searched for. So two people googling the same news story could get two totally different responses.

I think it’s a lovely name but I’ve also never heard of Enola Grey so don’t associate it with that.

I’m not rude about gaps in your knowledge. So why do you think it’s ok to be so rude to others?
I am pretty sure there are things I know that you don’t. Does that make you a bad person? Or me better than you?

Of course not.

Fuck me there are a lot of of people around who don't read, watch documentaries or know much about the world.

Absolutely. But every time such a debate comes up there are hordes of people hiding behind "We didn't learn it in school so how can I possibly be expected to know about it?" As though the few short hours spent in class can possibly cover all the important events, facts and issues in the world.

We were discussing the name of the plane, not the bombing

But you said that you had not heard of Hiroshima itself. That is what people were reacting to, not that you didn't know the name of the plane. I don't think anyone here is seriously arguing that such details are crucial and important, rather that the event itself is too important for us to allow it to be forgotten.

Awful association with the name of the plane that dropped the bomb on Hiroshima. Also sounds too much like Ebola. I’m not a fan.

Sounds strange to me. How about Nola, Nuala or Leona?

What you define as important and crucial is not someone else's thoughts.

Agreed, but are you saying that you consider the first ever use of nuclear weapons on a civilian population to be unimportant? I would be surprised to see anyone trying to make that case tbh.

Jeez

What you define as important and crucial is not someone else's thoughts.

Quite ignorant of you to think that everyone thinks the same as you, but then you seem proud of that

The idea that the dropping of two nuclear bombs on two cities full of totally innocent citizens doesn't fit into ANYONE'S idea of important or crucial just beggars belief. I don't quite know how anyone could defend that for any reason whatsoever esp if you are out of your teens.

Eleonora is a nice unusual name

Sorry, Op.

It's a negatory from me.

Don't mean to be unkind but for all the reasons above, just no.