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Lilith?

66 replies

EThreepwood · 27/06/2020 09:01

I really want a powerful feminist name.
I found this one yesterday.

According to the Kabbalah supposed to be Adam's original wife moulded out of clay at the same time.
Adam wanted dominance but she wanted equality. So she rebelled and left Eden out of her own free will. So the original feminist. (The good part of the name)

But the name also has bad connotations. Literally means night monster. She became a demon and the legend says steals babies?

What do you think? If you don't like it what strong names do you have?

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BabyLlamaZen · 30/06/2020 19:07

I like lilith a lot more than lily. It'll probably be shortened to lil. I keep thinking of Frasier's ex wife. Grin

LittleGwyneth · 30/06/2020 16:03

A few random super feminist names:

Gloria
Germain
Nancy
Emily
Christobel
Emmeline
Artemis
Minerva

nannytothequeen · 28/06/2020 07:09

I'm afraid that I thought of Frasier too. Although I'm sure that will become decreasingly relevant. How about Frida (Kahlo) or Nancy (Wake) or Simone (de Beauvoir) or even Michelle (Obama)?

SoftBlocks · 28/06/2020 07:02

I did love Lilith on Frasier though.

GrumpyHoonMain · 28/06/2020 07:02

Kali / Durga / laxmi /amba / bhavini are the names of the Hindubwarrior goddesses. These are the original Hindu Gods.

SoftBlocks · 28/06/2020 07:01

Frazier’s ex wife. I don’t really like -‘ith’ names I think they sound odd but it’s up to you!

sashh · 28/06/2020 06:55

OK some more

Ada (Lovelace) invented computer programming and was in one episode in the last series of Dr Who.

Violette (Sabo) badass SEO officer in WW2.

Marie Curie

Edith Cavel

Nicola Adams - she will always be the first woman to win a gold medal in Olympic boxing

Another favorite of mine is Dolly Parton (although her middle name Rebecca might be more suitable). I don't like country music but this woman has done so much, raising money for charities, writing songs, running her own business and in particular her 'Imaginary Library' that sends out books to children at no cost to the family from birth to 5 years old.

nosnugglesforyou · 27/06/2020 19:32

It might prejudice people against your child, even if subconsciously. The first thing I think is demon or devil. There are loads of evil Lilith’s in popular culture too

Disfordarkchocolate · 27/06/2020 19:19

Well you forget something new everyday @bridgetreilly, thank you. I still think it's a load of anti female bollocks.

bridgetreilly · 27/06/2020 18:09

I think of its later story as being a load of anti female bollocks often found in the bible. I say that as a Christian.

I mean you can think what you like, but Lilith isn't in the Bible at all, so there's that

Immigrantsong · 27/06/2020 16:14

Also what about:

Joan (Joan D'Arc)
Manon (witch queen based on a series of books GOS)
Isidora (present from Goddess Isis)

Fanciedachange1 · 27/06/2020 16:13

I like Lilith, although my first thought is Fraiser!

It doesn’t to me have such strong negative connotations as a name like Lucifer (although I like that too!)

I’m also a fan of Abel though so names with religious figures/known back story wouldn’t deter me.

ElephantAndButterfly · 27/06/2020 16:07

@Disfordarkchocolate

More like Lilith, long suffering ex-wife of eternally self-obsessed man child Frasier who had a far better career than him.

Yup!

I like her character.

Immigrantsong · 27/06/2020 15:58

What about goddesses?

Astarte
Hecate
Artemis
Demeter

Blessed be the maiden, mother and crone.

Disfordarkchocolate · 27/06/2020 15:43

More like Lilith, long suffering ex-wife of eternally self-obsessed man child Frasier who had a far better career than him.

KatherineJaneway · 27/06/2020 15:35

Lilith is Frasier’s evil ex-wife in the sitcom

Yup

Hopeful57 · 27/06/2020 15:34

Isabella (warrior queen of spain)

Isabella the I?

Hopeful57 · 27/06/2020 15:31

I love Lilith, I think of it as an uncommon, feminist name and the negative Biblical associations don't bother me at all

There are no negative biblical associations. Simply due to the fact that Lilith is not a "biblical" figure. It's a phenomenon quite exclusive to the Jewish religion and culture.

I'm not saying that non-Jewish people can't use it. But if they want to use it and also feel like they can just redefine old Jewish concepts to conform with their personal tastes and opinions? It's a bit problematic imo if I'm being honest...

speedygo · 27/06/2020 15:27

Love Lilith. My best friend is named this and she's mid 20s. Never been a Lily and always Lilith. Tbh Lily isn't common at all where we live so that might be it

Immigrantsong · 27/06/2020 15:20

I love Lilith. All the negative connotations is because she was not obedient to Adam and God kicked her out of heaven out of spite and then she supposedly became mother of demons. Sounds fair to me.

Other strong names:
Zenobia (BME super queen in Africa)
Antiope (Amazon queen)
Isabella (warrior queen of spain)
Hypatia (Grren Mathematian and astronomer killed by the Christ6mb for refusing to convert)
Olympia (Alexander the Great's mum and a massive strategist)
Marie (from Marie Curie)

elfran · 27/06/2020 15:14

I love Lilith, I think of it as an uncommon, feminist name and the negative Biblical associations don't bother me at all. (Granted, this is probably because I'm not religious at all, and keep in mind that anything in the Bible, even those stories with a grain of truth to them, has been transcribed by men and thus viewed through a lens that is often highly misogynistic ... anyway I digress. Grin) I really doubt anybody would have a negative opinion of your daughter because of this name - as soon as they know her, their primary association with Lilith would be your daughter, not a Bible story or a character from a sitcom which ended 16 years ago! (And fwiw, Lilith was a great character.)

Another feminist name I love, with a "negative" story/association that has been reclaimed in recent years, is Hester. It's a bit Marmite but perhaps more "obviously" strong/feminist than the subtler references like Emmeline, Maya, Margaret, etc, simply because it's less common.

Lumie123 · 27/06/2020 14:18

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Disfordarkchocolate · 27/06/2020 14:02

It's a fantastic name. I think of its later story as being a load of anti female bollocks often found in the bible. I say that as a Christian.

ArtichokeAardvark · 27/06/2020 13:59

Isn't Lilith the mother of all demons? Not a great association to saddle your daughter with, IMO!

It will also be shortened to Lily, which is pretty but not exactly strong.