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Alternatives to Anwen?

117 replies

DrowsyDragon · 30/05/2020 15:14

Hello, we’re expecting dd2. (Well probably, scans can be wrong). I’m welsh, though not welsh speaking (dw’in dysgu) and my husband is antipodean as is all of his family. I have a fairly traditional welsh name and I really want to pass welsh names down to my kids. Husband is ok with that as long as they are “not too hard” for non welsh people. DD1 is called Alys.
He’s really set his heart on Anwen for dd2 but my parents were really rude about it when he suggested it last time - old fashioned and frumpy?
I increasingly like it but I am not sure and as my husband has an A name too I worry it seems like we are doing an “a” name theme.
Basically, thoughts on Anwen, Lots of names with the same letter in one family and any other anglophone friendly welsh girls names. [he’s vetoed Eira and Mali to my disappointment). Thanks!

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CaffiSaliMali · 31/05/2020 18:19

Never knew that about Alwyn - I know a Welsh Alwyn, and am related to an Alwen so I assumed Alwyn was the male equivalent of Alwen (and I guess when Welsh speakers use the name that is their thought process).

MikeUniformMike · 31/05/2020 17:49

I know a few welsh Alwyns.
Alwen is a welsh name - it's the name of a river.

MikeUniformMike · 31/05/2020 17:47

@Destroyedpeople"
Meaning of Alwyn
The origin and therefore meaning of the name Alwyn is from a German. In its original German meaning, the name means “Friend”. In its original English meaning, the name means “Wise Friend” and the old Teutonic meaning is “Loved By All.

MikeUniformMike · 31/05/2020 17:45

Erin isn't welsh but occasionally is given to girls by welsh-speaking parents.

I'd guess at some names being popular with parents who don't have welsh as their main language. I'd guess these to be names like Dylan, Anwen, Carys, Bryn etc.

Destroyedpeople · 31/05/2020 17:39

'Alwyn isn't Welsh'....well I am sure my Welsh speaking aquaintance in his little Welsh speaking town will be delighted to hear that. ..Confused

MikeUniformMike · 31/05/2020 17:26

Arwen is from Lord of the Rings.
Alwyn isn't welsh either.

Awen is a name, and it means muse. It can also mean ash (as in tree) or a singular of reins.

The -wen names being trendy at the time meant that some names were made up.

Anwyn isn't a name, and would be a bit unfortunate.

Name suggestions on here tend to seem middle-aged, and I don't hear those names on young children.

Names of welsh origin given in Wales in 2017 (and their numbers):

  1. Erin (91)
  2. Ffion (88)
  3. Seren (78)
  4. Megan (77)
  5. Mali (71)
  6. Alys (57)
  7. Nia (48)
  8. Cadi (44)
  9. Eira (44)
10. Martha (43)

Mae'n ddifyr nodi hefyd bod Efa (40), Elin (37), Nansi (36) a Gwen (34) yn dod i'r 100 uchaf o'r holl enwau - Cymreig neu beidio - am y tro cyntaf. Mae Martha yn y degfed safle ar ein rhestr ni, gan gymryd lle Lowri (41).

Spam88 · 31/05/2020 15:38

I love Anwen ❤️ my favourite welsh name. Followed by Eleri. Also think Eira is pretty, more so for the meaning though I think.

I'm not entirely convinced Arwen is an actual name...? I've only ever come across Arwyns (obviously male). And Awen is the name of the company that runs all the libraries round here.

SerendipitySunshine · 31/05/2020 15:27

I know a gorgeous young Anwen. Not frumpy at all!

MikeUniformMike · 31/05/2020 15:18

Alwen is much prettier, but that doesn't go with Alys.
Awen is lovely.

MikeUniformMike · 31/05/2020 15:17

It's not a classic. There was a fashion for -wyn (boy) and -wen (girl) names in the first few decades of the 20th century.

It's about as classic as Annette, Sheila or Beryl.

alwaysanewlife · 31/05/2020 15:01

I like Anwen.

And Arwen.

ZebraKid71 · 31/05/2020 14:58

Anwen is a fab name, plus she had the option of Annie as a nickname if she wants.

Ffion is my favourite Welsh girls name.

MikeUniformMike · 31/05/2020 11:54

Suggestions:
Buddug
Betsan
Catrin
Elen
Fflur
Leusa

MikeUniformMike · 31/05/2020 11:52

I think Anwen is dated and frumpy too. It's a name that works if you don't speak welsh. It is more popular than you would think, but I'm not keen. It's a bit like Annette.

Arwen isn't really welsh, although it is sometimes used as the female version of Arwyn.

Gwenyth is spelt Gwenith.

Seren is overused and I don't like it.
Cariad is awful.

Betrys is a no from me because it is too similar to ' petrus ' - Betrys betrus.

BatleyTownswomensGuild · 31/05/2020 09:28

Anwen is very pretty IMO. Just go with it....

Phphion · 31/05/2020 05:37

I would say Anwen in Wales is similar to names like Josephine or Frances in England, rather than names like Edith and Mabel. Its absolute peak popularity was in a much older generation but it never really disappeared due to being too associated with a particular generation. It seems to be becoming more popular again in Wales, particularly amongst non-Welsh speakers.

Other names:
Lili
Cadi
Elin
Nia
Efa
Catrin

Mwnci123 · 31/05/2020 01:17

Dwi'n hoffi Anwen. Classic rather than old fashioned I think.

ghislaine · 30/05/2020 20:50

Gwenyth
Tegan
Delyth
Myfanwy
Aelwen
Betrys

4amWitchingHour · 30/05/2020 18:01

I love the name Anwen - it's my best friend's middle name.

If you like it, use it, ignore your parents, and you're not doing an A theme on purpose, they just happen to be the names you like Smile

pickingdaisies · 30/05/2020 17:57

It's not old fashioned, names go around. But I'd never have thought of Anwen as old fashioned anyway? It's just a lovely name.

CaffiSaliMali · 30/05/2020 17:53

Dw i'n dysgu cymraeg hefyd, OP.

Ignore your parents OP, it's up to you and DH.

My list consists of:
Alys
Eira
Mari
Tesni
Morwenna

So it think we have similar tastes. I like Anwen, but my Mam has a wen name so I'm avoiding them.

Nia
Ffion
Eleri
Eirys
Eirlys
Nerys
Carys
Cerys
Ceri
Sali
Mali
Lili
Mai
Efa
Nansi
Lwsi
Cadi
Catrin

Lots of lovely Welsh girls names. Something like Mari or Nia would go nicely with Alys I think.

Eilonwy is a guilty pleasure of mine. I used to think the author had made it up, but apparently it was coined in Victorian times (British Baby Names did a name of the week feature on it and found it in use in late 1800s).

HalfBloodPrincess · 30/05/2020 17:51

Efa is my favourite welsh girls name.

And although technically not a name, I love Ceirios

MyHipsDontLieUnfortunately · 30/05/2020 17:44

Know a Cadi Smile

MyHipsDontLieUnfortunately · 30/05/2020 17:44

I also love a Cadi, which I think is lovely.

MyHipsDontLieUnfortunately · 30/05/2020 17:43

Anwen really isn't old fashioned and frumpy. As for alternatives, Seren is nice but it's everywhere. I've always like Sioned. Ffion is nice too.

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