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Alternatives to Anwen?

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DrowsyDragon · 30/05/2020 15:14

Hello, we’re expecting dd2. (Well probably, scans can be wrong). I’m welsh, though not welsh speaking (dw’in dysgu) and my husband is antipodean as is all of his family. I have a fairly traditional welsh name and I really want to pass welsh names down to my kids. Husband is ok with that as long as they are “not too hard” for non welsh people. DD1 is called Alys.
He’s really set his heart on Anwen for dd2 but my parents were really rude about it when he suggested it last time - old fashioned and frumpy?
I increasingly like it but I am not sure and as my husband has an A name too I worry it seems like we are doing an “a” name theme.
Basically, thoughts on Anwen, Lots of names with the same letter in one family and any other anglophone friendly welsh girls names. [he’s vetoed Eira and Mali to my disappointment). Thanks!

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SJaneS48 · 02/06/2020 13:26

Seriously don’t worry about your parents dismissing your names as old granny names - both mine have them, along with the quarter of the playground! My DM said ‘Oh. Yuck’ to both .. but then given what she called me and my sister, she had a nerve!

Anwen is really lovely - no whiff of old lady in the least! Arwen is nice too but I think outside of Wales, people might take you for LOTR geeks. Wouldn’t worry too much about the same initials stuff, three of us in this house do, no biggy.

Morred · 02/06/2020 13:06

Firstly, you clearly need to think up a new supercool fashionable name to tell your parents. Preferably several, so they start to think that perhaps "classic" (old-fashioned, fuddy-duddy) names might not be so bad after all...

Anwen is really pretty but like some pp I would worry about two Miss A [Jones] in one house. Might get a bit fraught with teens opening each other's post.

Catrin is lovely. I also like Branwen and Elen (but no one will spell that right), Madlen and Marged.

MikeUniformMike · 02/06/2020 12:04

Eleri - dated, middle-aged
Dilys - dated, granny name
Emlyn - boy's name
Enid - ENN-id not Ee-nid. Very old name.
Gwendolyn - Gwendolen
Guinevere - not welsh, Gwenhwyfar or Gaenor
Idelle - Confused - not welsh
Rhiannon - don't like it anglicised
Wynne - not welsh, Wyn is a boy's name.

CaffiSaliMali · 02/06/2020 11:52

Emlyn is a Welsh boys name, not a girls name. Gwendolyn should be Gwendolen, gwen-DOL-en (in Welsh the emphasis is on the penultimate syllable). The anglicised version, Gwendoline, tends to be pronounced gwen-duh-lin.

Guinevere in Welsh is Gwenhwyfar, I suspect that one will be tricky for OP's inlaws to pronounce Grin

I don't think Idelle is Welsh. To an English eye it looks like 'ih-Dell'. In Welsh Ll is a letter in it's own right so Idelle wouldn't work in Welsh, the pronunciation would be very different with the aspirated L sound of Ll.

Eleri is lovely, a bit old fashioned but nice and it fits in the the trend for 'El' names and for short, vowel heavy names. It may be incorrectly rhymed with celery, instead of Terry, but isn't difficult to learn once told.

OP - I think Elin or Elen would go well with Alys. Plus Mari which is currently top of my list.

LostInTheColonies · 02/06/2020 04:34

Menna. So pretty, and easy to say in both Welsh and English!

Aclh13 · 02/06/2020 03:26

Here are names I suggested on another post
Eleri
Dilys
Emlyn
Enid
Gwendolyn
Guinevere
Idelle
Rhiannon
Wynne

Aclh13 · 02/06/2020 03:21

Can you not just stick with Anwen but try to make the nickname Annie stick?

mamansnet · 01/06/2020 22:08

Glad I fell on this thread. My DH is pushing for Arwen for our DD but I'm resisting as I'd never heard it before, despite being Welsh. Now I learn it's from Lord of the Rings! Crafty bugger kept that to himself.

OP, the name Anwen has been around for a long time which is why some people might think it old-fashioned. I was in school with a few (I'm late thirties so not THAT old) and while I live abroad these days, I'm fairly sure there are some younger ones still around my hometown. If you like it, go for it! It's as Welsh as they come, pronounceable to non-Welsh speakers and both you and your DH like it. That sounds good enough to me!

Meanwhile, I'm off to persuade DH that Gwenllian is a far better choice than Arwen Grin

DrowsyDragon · 01/06/2020 20:49

People are so weird, @CaffiSaliMali, I’m welsh, I live in wales, passing on my culture is not so weird!

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CaffiSaliMali · 01/06/2020 18:05

@DrowsyDragon

I think given the dubious tone with which my in laws said “you’re not going to pick another welsh name are you?” That Buddug in every way would be a step too far!
I have had comments like that from family and friends, except I don't have any DC yet so get told it's cruel, irresponsible and bad parenting to give a child a Welsh name.

I have a Welsh name so not sure why people who don't have Welsh names think they're an authority on this, clearly my experience of having one has been largely positive or I wouldn't consider similar names for my own DC.

My list of names gets Welsher each time I get one of those comments Grin

DrowsyDragon · 01/06/2020 14:25

I think given the dubious tone with which my in laws said “you’re not going to pick another welsh name are you?” That Buddug in every way would be a step too far!

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MikeUniformMike · 01/06/2020 12:51

How very dare you suggest that Australians wouldn't know how to pronounce it!
[Flounce].

CaffiSaliMali · 01/06/2020 12:30

@KillerofMen

Please ask your in laws to pronounce Buddug and report back Grin
Yes please do Grin
MikeUniformMike · 01/06/2020 11:35

Afryl - not welsh, just Avril written phonetically.
Blodwen - too old fashioned
Eilir - boy's name
Lilwen - made up name
Medwen - real name for a September-born girl. Dated.
Telyn - not a name, just the word for harp
Tegan - no. It's the word for a toy.
Tesni - yes

KillerofMen · 01/06/2020 11:33

Please ask your in laws to pronounce Buddug and report back Grin

Spam88 · 01/06/2020 10:16

Really only 77 Megan's in the whole of wales in 2017? At least half of those must be in my DD's nursery...

ghislaine · 31/05/2020 22:41

Afryl
Blodwen
Eilir
Lilwen
Medwen
Telyn
Tesni

DrowsyDragon · 31/05/2020 20:29

@MikeUniformMike we’re pretty keen on Alys too. :)
Two Miss A is a definite point. Always having to use middle names might wear thin - can you I,Aline post in Duggar household? Do not want to seem Duggar-ish.

I love Elinor but I knew I would be cheating on the welsh and I really want to pass my cultural heritage on. DD is at a welsh speaking Meithrin, we’re sending her to Welsh medium so yeah a Welsh first name is important to me. DH agrees though picked an english middle name which is fine!

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devildeepbluesea · 31/05/2020 20:12

@MikeUniformMike literally it means greenness but 'glesni' has always meant purity, clarity, limpid-ness. Never greenness.

MikeUniformMike · 31/05/2020 20:09

@devildeepbluesea, Glesni is greenness.

@DrowsyDragon, I'd say use Anwen apart from the A initial. It is quite popular and it is simple to say and spell.

Elinor is nice in a welsh accent, but it isn't welsh.

Catrin is a classic name, that is also easy to live with and won't date badly and it goes well with Alys. I like Alys very much.

Awel is a bit dodgy as it means Breeze.

Buddug will not work for you, sorry, I think it's lovely.

Flamingolingo · 31/05/2020 19:34

I really like the name Anwen but I would avoid another A name just for practical reasons. You will have two Miss A s in your house which will make post awkward.

I know an Eirwen which I think is lovely

DrowsyDragon · 31/05/2020 19:29

Lots to think about. DH seems really set On Anwen at the moment but we have a while to go. I’m going to keep an open mind and there’s some lovely suggestions on there. Think Buddug might cause my Aussie in laws to freak out though.
I really like Catrin as well which DH has conceded is his second favourite. (I’d have loved Mali but apparently we know too many little girls called Mali already. )

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SpeedofaSloth · 31/05/2020 18:36

I like Anwen.
Elinor is my favourite, though.

devildeepbluesea · 31/05/2020 18:31

If you like Anwen then use it, I think it's lovely.

Other suggestions:
Awel
Awen
And my particular favourite, Glesni (means purity). Pronounced Gless-nee

Destroyedpeople · 31/05/2020 18:26

Well who knew... (MikeUniform Mike! )....I did have a little Google myself and it did come up under 'Welsh boys' names'....so it's German too...as you say a lot of names are kind of half invented. .

And Mike uniform....'Buddug' really? Once I told my kids it was the worst Welsh girls name I had ever heard and they insisted on calling me that fir the next two years. ....

And Betsan sounds like a make of portable loo tbh or possibly lavatory cleaner.

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