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I didn't think this name would be so unpopular

716 replies

spookybitches · 21/04/2020 19:06

So all throughout my pregnancy, my husband and I kept our baby name choices to ourselves. My baby is now 2 months old, and nearly everyone we have met or spoken to, have mispronounced it. Granted, we haven't seen many people over the last few weeks, so now I'm starting to wonder if it's just my family or if it's really so unheard of?
My baby boy is called Cillian (DH Irish). My whole family pronounce it silly-an even when I've corrected them numerous times.
Can I ask if you would know how to pronounce Cillian? I'm worried I've set him up for a lifetime correcting people.

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AngelaScandal · 24/04/2020 05:15

...and if the entire world can pronounce the Eilish /Eilis in Billie Eilish I cant see why Cillian is such a puzzler ...

MamaFrey29 · 24/04/2020 05:14

Silly An

mathanxiety · 24/04/2020 04:58

It's lovely but that's the problem with Irish and Welsh names, no one this side of the border can pronounce them.

The problem is not with Irish names that people can't pronounce.

The problem is people who won't pronounce Irish names.

What is so odd about a name that rhymes with Gillian?

Seriously, if English people can manage Persephone and Penelope they can do Aoife, Cillian, Deirdre, Domhnall, and all the rest of them.

pallisers · 24/04/2020 00:15

we aren't used to saying Irish names in England

Kind of amazing considering the nearly 1,000 year old intimate ... connection (for want of a better word) between England and Ireland but there you go.

eggandonion · 24/04/2020 00:00

His cousin worked in my local supermarket, and as someone said Cillian is the Irish equivalent of a name like Ben!
But now you know, would you keep pronouncing it wrongly? Especially if it was the name of a baby in your family? Or would you call the baby by his name, which i think most people would!

VentureCommunist · 23/04/2020 23:52

The Cillian Murphy thing is weird because I've known who he is since 28 Days Later (which was 2002!!) and I've never heard anyone say his name!! In my head I've always read it as Silly-un, until a thread like this one enlightened me a few months ago.

How are you all hearing his name said so much?? Grin

FelicisNox · 23/04/2020 23:46

I would say Killian but only because I've heard of Cillian Murphy.

It's lovely but that's the problem with Irish and Welsh names, no one this side of the border can pronounce them.

Have you set him up for a lifetime of mispronunciation? Yes, probably.

Fairfatandoverfifty · 23/04/2020 22:46

If it's one of those wonderful Irish names like Grainne and Siobhan it's probably pronounced 'Ralph'!

Annamaria14 · 23/04/2020 22:25

@YesThatIsMyRealName people change their surnames to make them more English too.

My grandad came from another european country to England in World War 2. He was escaping the Nazis. He completely changed his surname from his orginal surname to an English surname. I have that made up English surname .

I feel a bit sad that our original surname was thrown away, but I know my Grandad felt that he had to change it to fit in, because English people were so un accepting of foriegners. It makes me sad

TeeBee · 23/04/2020 22:11

Hard C.

isabellerossignol · 23/04/2020 22:08

My Dd insisted she had met a child in Belfast called Wee Urn. She was actually called Erin.

Grin that's priceless.

eggandonion · 23/04/2020 22:03

My Dd insisted she had met a child in Belfast called Wee Urn. She was actually called Erin.

Runnerduck34 · 23/04/2020 21:54

Tbh i would have pronounced it c(s)illa-ann, probably my english genes! I dont know anyone with the name and havent heard it pronounced, however its easy to grasp the pronunciation once youve been told and the people who matter will soon master it.
I really like the name, but unless you live in Ireland you may have correct its pronunciation more than once. A close colleague often spoke about her daughter , on-yah. I asked how it was spelt and never in a million years would have guessed aine!

mathanxiety · 23/04/2020 21:24

They have been verbally corrected many times, Bathsheba

BathshebaKnickerStickers · 23/04/2020 21:11

Have they only seen it written down - in that case it’s an understandable error.

I had the opposite - we told my MIL THAT DD2 was Kirsty and she spelled it Kirstie on the card.

Surely once they have heard it said as Kill-I-an they will automatically change they way they say it.

YesThatIsMyRealName · 23/04/2020 20:10

"I think it's seen as more acceptable to sneer at Irish, Welsh and Scottish names. I know people who wouldn't vocally sneer at Wiktoria or Tomasz, but would at Alys or Tomos."

East Asian too. So much so that most Asians have an "English name" which they use when abroad, which I just find sad.

mathanxiety · 23/04/2020 19:54

it can make people feel stupid, then resentful

Same thought, expressed differently.

mathanxiety · 23/04/2020 19:51

...it causes anxiety in people when they don't know something that they feel they should.
alexdgr8

This is an interesting comment.

The poster is talking about an inferiority complex. Maybe this is the chip on the shoulder that results in refusal to say a name properly? They are presented with something new, and experience it as an insult because it is new and therefore someone is teaching them something.

It's like sullen teens who resent school and take the efforts of a teacher to teach them as a personal insult.
there is a lot of defensiveness which is almost aggressive. (To use alexdgr8's words about responses on this thread.) I think that analysis applies to those who refuse to pronounce the name correctly.

The idea that this personality problem should be pandered to is very odd though.

eggandonion · 23/04/2020 19:49

By this point many people in England can pronounce Sadiq Khan and Priti Patel and Rishi Sunak, plusThierry Henri and Cesc Fabregas it's a weird concept that people are aghast at names from Celtic neighbours.
But there you go!

CaffiSaliMali · 23/04/2020 19:44

"Do English people get anxious about Polish, Pakistani, Somali, Lituanian, French names? Or just Irish and Welsh and some Scottish?"

I think it's seen as more acceptable to sneer at Irish, Welsh and Scottish names. I know people who wouldn't vocally sneer at Wiktoria or Tomasz, but would at Alys or Tomos.

maria860 · 23/04/2020 19:38

It's because it's Irish we aren't used to saying Irish names in England I like aoife but over here I know most people will say it wrong so I've decided against it.

SinisterSparkle · 23/04/2020 19:30

I know its pronounced kill e un but only because of cillian Murphy if I hadn't heard of him and found out it was an Irish name I would be saying sill aswell. One of them ones you either know or you don't. Either way it's a name

eggandonion · 23/04/2020 19:22

Mil,in Belfast, thought I should call my ds Cyril.

alexdgr8 · 23/04/2020 19:00

i think some of this is getting off topic / making sweeping assumptions.
there is a lot of defensiveness which is almost aggressive.
i was answering the OP : yes, in my experience this name is unheard of here in england. no , i and most everyone i know would not know how to pronounce it. i can see why most would attempt something akin to cyril. that also is pronounced differently in eastern europe i believe.
the question was about here, so i answered it.
i made no comment on whether it was acceptable nor am i frightened by names from other countries. i simply tried to answer the OP.
some of you don't seem to believe my answer. cheerio.

eggandonion · 23/04/2020 18:43

Domhnall Gleeson seems to be doing Ok despite his complicated name.I was on a thread a while ago where posters swooned at Eoghan Murphy, unsuccessful minister for housing. Irish threads do wander a bit.
I don't think Irish relatives, even elderly ones, would be that confused, as they had the National language bet into them. They coped with Peig, Padraig Pearse, Niall Quinn, Eamon de Valera et al. Cillian is fairly easy.
Do English people get anxious about Polish, Pakistani, Somali, Lituanian, French names? Or just Irish and Welsh and some Scottish?

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