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Welsh speakers help please!

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Naomimi · 17/10/2019 21:29

Llewelyn, Llewellyn or Llywelyn?

Which is the most popular or “classic” spelling in Wales?

This is not for a baby, btw, and I won’t be saying slaughtering it aloud, so don’t worry!

Thank you Smile

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MikeUniformMike · 18/10/2019 18:06

Llywelyn is the classic form.
Llywelyn ap Gruffudd etc.
Llewelyn is popular, probably because of the shortening to Llew

Llewellyn is an anglicised form and isn't Welsh.

Proseccoinamug · 18/10/2019 17:57

I don’t understand the llyfrgell thing either? Both ll sounds are a Welsh ‘ll’? There’s no single l sound?

Proseccoinamug · 18/10/2019 17:56

Never seen it with ll in the middle. Llewelyn is the usual spelling ime. The ll in the middle looks wrong to me as a Welsh speaker. Llywelyn, I have seen as a surname.

nespressowoo · 18/10/2019 09:07

Llewellyn. Lovely name

MikeUniformMike · 18/10/2019 09:05

Naomini,
The best spelling is Llywelyn. You can still use the nn Llew, which I love.
Llewellyn is horrible and pronounced Loo-ellen.

I don't get the reference to dropped sounds. There is no dropped sound in llyfrgell.

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Naomimi · 18/10/2019 07:21

Because we like to be awkward! Grin

Thanks for all your help.

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Nottheduchess · 17/10/2019 21:55

Thank you smile It’s weird, isn’t it? Why is it usually spelt with the double ll in the middle but pronounced like a single l?

Because we like to be awkward!

Paintedmaypole · 17/10/2019 21:48

As a forename I thought Llewelyn was the most popular spelling, as in Llewelyn the great and Llewelyn Ap Gruffydd.

InkyFingersInkyFace · 17/10/2019 21:47

There are dropped sounds which weren't dropped many years ago.

I'm pretty sure 'llyfyrgell' was one but my Welsh language trivia is getting old now. Welsh word for library. I know I learnt some. I'm now questioning if I've spelt it right.

Llewellyn, yes.

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Naomimi · 17/10/2019 21:42

Thank you Smile It’s weird, isn’t it? Why is it usually spelt with the double ll in the middle but pronounced like a single l?

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Watto1 · 17/10/2019 21:37

I’d go for Llewellyn. All the Llewellyns I know spell it that way(Although they have it as a surname, not a first name if that makes a difference?). Having said that, I would pronounce it Llewelyn!

commonwelshgreen · 17/10/2019 21:33

Llewellyn.