Working class names

Everyone wants to be elite or traditional working class, but hardly anyone is
I'm working class, I can tell you it isn't that exciting.

@Passthecherrycoke you are really confusing me because you can’t just make up your own facts about the demographics of the country

more than half the global population is middle class

www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2016/feb/26/uk-more-middle-class-than-working-class-2000-data

Passthecherrycoke saying something a lot doesn't make it true, can you prove that?

A lot of middle class people in the UK claim to be working class because it's cooler or more "authentic" in their view. Some middle class people try to behave as part of the elite. Only those who've been the middle of the middle class for generations seem able to admit to being middle class, it's not something anyone pretends to be if they aren't.

In most first world countries the middle class are the biggest group, for all half of them pretend to be working class because their great grandad was a coal miner...

Yes I am the In the U.K. and yes the working class is the majority.

@passthecherrycoke
Are you in the U.K.? Here - working class is not the majority so your comments are more relevant to middle class choices.

@anothernotherone

“Everyone wants to be elite or traditional working class, but hardly anyone is.”

Yes !

The comments about practically everyone being working class are absolute nonsense (for this country).

@crushedvelvetcouch, good point. I'm Irish and even though the middle classes and the wealthy and privileged around me are using Irish names old and newfound, roman classics, ecclesiastical classics, royal classics........ and all of the many trends which I love and enjoy watching......... travellers call their children Margaret, John, Edward, Joseph, Patrick,Sarah, Mary, Ann. I know that they are getting more adventurous now though. NOBODY could accuse travellers of having poor taste in names.

I hope I haven't offended anybody here. NOT my intention. Just my observation that they, like Kate and William! stick to classic classic old familiars.

I personally think the idea of "classes" is antiquated - as online and in every day life people can pretend to be something they are not - even if "class" is still a category.

Names should come down to what you like. Not what parents or extended family should think...its entirely upto you. There are lots of names out there that I wouldn't consider for a number of reasons....but its upto you!

We named our little boy in February, a name we liked and thought fitted him. I have since been told it is old fashioned. And have also since come across at least 2 babies with the same name, suggesting it's not all that old fashioned after all. But who cares, it's his name and I love it. My fiance and I chose it and are both over the moon with it (and our little boy!)

I personally think it is upto you. Regardless of class.

And the assumption that snobbery shouldn't hold you back if you are working class and want to call your daughter Alice (good) but absolutely should if you are middle class and want to call her Summer (bad).

I just find it amusing/insulting that WC seems to be shorthand for 'poor taste' on MN.
And if you are WC but managed against all the odds to bestow your DC with 'good' names then you're told that those names sound 'middle class.'

Patrick is not working class!! Not unless George, Andrew & David are working clasd.

We have:
Anya
Patrick
Elliott
Felix
Megan

I'm not sure where we fit in class-wise but we're both from decidedly WC families doing ordinary (underpaid) jobs.
Should I apologise to the Class Overlords (definitely exist) that we don't have any Tylers or Chardonnays?

That BBC survey is a load of tosh.
If your parents weren't professionals or business owners then you're WC.
The vast majority of this country is comprised of the WC, which is not one homogenous group owing to its comparative size.
Lower/upper WC are more disparate than their middle class comparators.

Who o earth told you you can't pick a "middle class name". Whatever that is. How ridiculous. Just pick whatever name you like. You don't need to be restricted by other people's snobbery.

tiramisu1 you said yourself that you don't understand the class concept and grew up outside the UK, so it's not about you...

That survey includes way more classes than the traditional, which is working, middle and upper. You certainly don’t get emergent service workers baby names do you?

Everyone wants to be elite or traditional working class, but hardly anyone is.

No, I don't want to be either.

And even more confusing is the comment below about working class people's kids having more tooth decay..?!

Passthecherrycoke only 14% of the UK population are traditional working class. Established middle class is the biggest group.

Hardly anyone, especially under the age of 50, would actively seek to be described as middle class because it's seen as dull, prissy, self conscious, inauthentic, all things bad.

Everyone wants to be elite or traditional working class, but hardly anyone is.

www.bbc.com/news/uk-22007058

@tiramisu1 I don’t understand how you can say tastes are affected by ‘experience and education’ & not class. Class is based on experience & education....

Well that's because I don't understand the class concept. I grew up abroad (European country). I get that some people are more educated, others are better travelled etc. But I don't understand how that 'classifies' people? What class would I be?

anothernotherone That’s not true of MN which is full of working class people desperate to be middle class. Although I agree, it’s a deeply unfashionable thing to be. I wouldn’t look to them for fashion really though

Middle class doesn't mean posh.

I'm pretty sure there is no wannabe middle class, because middle class is a deeply unfashionable thing to be, yet it is what the majority of people in western countries are.

Lots of people don't admit it and wannabe upper middle class perhaps, but nobody wants to be or aspires to be solidly middle- middle or lower middle. Most lower middle class people pretend to be working class because it is far more fashionable.

Made up misspelt names are not working class, that's under class...

Really off the wall weird name choices are generally unrelated to social class and more about parental personality type or parental identity other than with a social class and a desperate need to signal being different to everyone else.

I don't see why it matters. I think it's very rude to make judgements based on names.
And of course i fully expected the hyphenated names to come up, always does. Nothing wrong with them, my name is hyphenated. It annoys me when people keep putting that on threads like these.

How about:

Taylor, Mason, Saywer, Cooper, maybe even Carpenter?