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Xanthe or Ianthe?

106 replies

CalamityJess · 26/05/2019 21:59

What do you think of these names and which do you prefer?

(Pronounced ZAN-thee and eye-AN-thee)

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ElloBrian · 27/05/2019 18:06

Xanthe. I think it’s nice and I don’t give a shit whose culture it ‘belongs’ to. I find that kind of attitude ugly and nationalistic. Names should belong to all of us. It’s a lively sign of cultural mixing. Don’t be snobby and conservative about names. Smile

indigo13 · 27/05/2019 18:04

Ffs74 not odd at all. You have missed my point, the names discussed here aren't unpronounceable, I have met more than one of each. Your special surname is irrelevant here

missmouse101 · 27/05/2019 18:01

Xanthe is lovely. Also Iolanthe!

CalamityJess · 27/05/2019 17:55

Wow, this got ugly!

I didn’t realise these names were all that “out there”. They’re on the unusual side, yes, but there were 50 baby Xanthes in 2017 and 66 the year before, so by no means unheard of. And I went to school with an Ianthe and know of one other who’s a friend of a friend, so again not that unusual.

Arya While it’s interesting to learn about the authentic Greek pronunciation, that’s not really going to work in the UK. As pps have pointed out, we don’t say lots of other foreign-origin names in the “original” accent/language (Genevieve, Magnus, Ramona, Theodore, etc.)

Thanks for all the feedback!

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daisypond · 27/05/2019 12:01

Names have a different impression in different countries. If the OP is not in Greece it doesn’t matter if Xanthe is dated there. It sounds fresh to UK ears. Rosa is popular in the UK but it’s dated and granny-ish in Italy and Spain. Paul is dated here but it’s very popular in Germany.

MoreSlidingDoors · 27/05/2019 09:12

Actually the parents don’t get to choose how to pronounce a name from a different heritage IMO

Quite a naive stance.

(How do you pronounce Xanthippe then?)

bridgetreilly · 27/05/2019 09:03

I know a teenage Ianthe and a Xanthe.

Call your daughter Phoebe.

IHeartArya · 27/05/2019 09:03

Anyway I’ve said enough. Thank goodness the young Greeks now aren’t saddling their dcs with these names unless they have to. Mine know they are barred from naming after me Grin. They can name after dh whose name translates well.

IHeartArya · 27/05/2019 09:00

Actually the parents don’t get to choose how to pronounce a name from a different heritage IMO. They make efforts to pronounce correctly or give another. It’s quite insulting to give a name from another heritage & not know how to pronounce correctly. And as I’ve explained Ianthe is not pronounced Ianthee but Yanthi. Completely different. I know a couple who are named after their grandmothers. They hate it- just saying as do the Xanthi’s & Antigoni’s I know!

MoreSlidingDoors · 27/05/2019 08:57

You definitely aren’t saying Xanthippe correctly!

I’m sure you’d struggle with pronouncing my child’s welsh name correctly, but I wouldn’t judge you for it.

I didn’t know Claire was a French name.

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Purplepjs · 27/05/2019 08:55

I have a six month old Xanthe and we love it! Yep, it’s taking people a while to remember it/pronounce it correctly and we have worried if we have stuck her with too unusual a name. But our son has a very popular name and he hates meeting others of the same name, so you can’t win!! Both of your names are beautiful but obviously my vote has to go for Xanthe. Smile

Springisallaround · 27/05/2019 08:54

I didn't know how to pronounce Ianthe til this thread, looked at it for a while then got it wrong! Pretty name, but you will gets lots of ignoramuses like me. Prefer Xanthe on that basis, also like the name anyway. I'd be fine with Ianthe (which I see as 'Ian (the boy's name)-thee') once I knew how to say it.

I am a hypocrite though as one of my dd's has a hard to pronounce name (or rather it can be pronounced in multiple ways). She doesn't like it, I still do! Selfish parent really.

EdtheBear · 27/05/2019 08:52

I assumed they were boys names only the comment above about a DD gives a clue otherwise.

As for the comment that adults in a school should be embarrassed by not knowing the correct pronunciation of names from other languages with different spelling rules or the 'unique' spelling parents choose. Seriously get a grip.

BendydickCuminsnatch · 27/05/2019 08:51

I prefer Oenone (Oe as if Phoebe, no, ne as is Persephone) 😄 but mainly for its mind boggliness so probably not the best option as an actual name haha 😄

I prefer Xanthe from your two options!

IHeartArya · 27/05/2019 08:50

Same as not dame as!

IHeartArya · 27/05/2019 08:49

I know lots of Isabella’s actually so said in the Greek way Wink dame as eg Alexia, Christina etc!

You definitely aren’t saying Xanthippe correctly!

I didn’t know Claire was a French name.

MoreSlidingDoors · 27/05/2019 08:43

Arya

When is the last time you heard an Isabella being called with an Italian accent/emphasis? Or Claire with a rolled “r” as the French would say it?

I pronounce it zan-THIP-ee.

TatianaLarina · 27/05/2019 08:35

Xanthe.

Ianthe will be mispronounced as Eye anthee

IHeartArya · 27/05/2019 08:31

Thinking about the Ξάνθη (Xanthi) I know

They pronounce a mix between Zanthi & Ksanthi - a sort of blend between the two is the best way to describe it! But it’s very hard as even my dcs wouldn’t be able to get the gutteral needed to say it correctly.

OwlBeThere · 27/05/2019 08:30

There are many many kids with weird and wonderful names in my kids classes and no one bats an eye because kids don’t realise they’re ‘weird’ til someone says its so.

IHeartArya · 27/05/2019 08:24

That’s fine more but I bet you still aren’t able to pronounce correctly Wink

Teddybearhunter · 27/05/2019 08:24

I voted Ianthe as I think it’s prettier said out loud but having read some of the comments I think I’m changing to Xanthe as it’s easier to read
Both are nice & I like names like Hannah & Lucy so about as safe as it gets - I don’t see ‘weird and obscure’ here

MoreSlidingDoors · 27/05/2019 08:21

I’m Greek - I’ve had a life time of a similar name in the U.K. it’s awful - having to spell first name & surname. No one pronouncing either properly. Having it said differently in Greek & English. Just so you can give your child a lifetime of an unusual name. Selfish beyond belief.

I nearly changed my single-syllable, easy to pronounce (but various spellings so have to spell it several times a day) name to Xanthippe by deed poll for my 40th. 🤔

Didn’t get round to it, but I use it as my Starbucks name. Grin

IHeartArya · 27/05/2019 08:15

Just so you know

Ianthe - if pronounced properly is Yanthi. The I & A combine to Ya sound, the ‘e’ is more of an ‘i’ ending NOT ‘ie’.

Xanthe is quite harsh sounding if pronounced correctly XXanthi - so double X & I ending (as above) & even then I doubt it would be pronounced correctly.

mosa9 · 27/05/2019 07:53

Xanthe

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