Fleur or Fflur?

I prefer the look and sound of Fleur. I’ve not heard of Fflur before. As long as it is relatively well known where you live I think Fflur is fine too, or she will spend a fair bit of time telling people how to pronounce it

I'm welsh living in England so understand the dilemma. I like the name Fflur but I think it's going to cause a lot of problems away from
Welsh-speaking areas.

We couldn't think of any properly bilingual girls names tbh though something like Seren works and I know a few Ffions in England that don't get too much hassle with their names.

If you want a welsh name there are lots to choose from, pick one that works in English.

WTF?

frenchonion probably eye rolls rather than the losing of shit, nobody really cares that much about what you call your offspring - it's them who are saddled with the names not MN posters.

People ask because they want to know what others will be thinking but not saying face to face. If it's rude it's because some people will think that if they see the name.

If you don't want honest opinions stick to asking people face to face - everyone will say "how lovely" and you'll never know whether they mean it. Which is fine if you've chosen and don't care what anyone thinks and are sure your child will be better off with your chosen name all their life than other choices.

You'd all lose your shit if I posted my DC names 😂

'Typo'. Fucking hell how rude!

Fflur is a lovely name. Of course it's going to look like a made up spelling if you're from another country ffs. You wouldn't say that about Irish names for example.

Well, how Welsh is your DH? I'm a quarter Greek but don't look it at all and don't speak it, so if I named a dc of mine a traditionally Greek name I think it might look like appropriation.

Used places other than Wales, I think Fflur looks like a typo. Fleur is lovely

NB not a ‘Welsh speaking family’ as pp have suggested we need to be to be able to say the name...

I think some people are being very rude about what is a fairly commonplace Welsh name!

Fflur looks like a spelling mistake. Fleur is a bit harry potter. If you want a welsh name there are lots to choose from, pick one that works in English.

Fflur looks really horrible

CeriBerry that doesn't make much sense considering people are recommending a French name.

Dreichuplands people consider pronunciation of English and international names if they live in a country with a different language. As this is an English language forum those threads are less frequent, but there are threads discussing how names will go down in Spainish speaking countries etc etc.

It seems almost compulsory for people to be offended by baby names posts now, but the idea has always been that you can get feedback people think but are too polite to say face to face before you saddle your offspring with a name for life.
It's not really different

It isn't a name I have heard before and I would struggle to pronounce it without help.
I think that would be a fairly common response outside of Wales.
It depends how much that bothers you.

Loving the idea that Fflur in particular would be incomprehensible 'overseas'. As opposed to what exactly? Sophie? Ella?

Actually, I imagine people overseas don't have the small island/monoglot state of mind that the English do and so would be less likely to 'assume its a typo' because any name that isn't obviously English 'must be made up'.

The world is changing. The idea of choosing a name that is easy for English people to pronounce and spell is fast becoming extinct. Thank goodness. These days a baby Fflur would likely grow up with kids from other cultures rather than amongst a sea of English kids named Jack and Sophie.

I actually can’t believe how offensive some posters have been about a very commonplace Welsh name on this thread. ‘It’s ridiculous... it looks like a stutter...’ That’s my first language you’re mocking! Heaven forbid anyone use a name that isn’t classic English rose.

www.pronouncekiwi.com/Ystrad%20Fflur if you scroll to the very bottom where it says welsh pronunciation. for anyone who is curious on the proper pronunciation.

@joeybee, they won't think its fleur, because its pronounced completely differently. anyone in a foreign country other than their own will have to spell their name, surely? i have a very ordinary 'english' name, and i've had to spell it hundreds of times in asia or africa as to them its not common.
in welsh the 'ff' is like an f in english, and 'f' is our v sound. once you know that its not hard to work out how names like Hâf or Ffion are pronounced.

I know two Fflurs in South Wales so surprised to hear people saying it’s so unheard of. I like it. It is hard to say though so if she’s going to have a non-Welsh accent I’d hesitate for a first name.

Flur means hallway/ corridor in German.

That's what I read it as

It doesn't sound as though Fflur works unless you're a Welsh speaking family and will pronounce it correctly yourselves and bring your DD up Welsh speaking.

Go for Fleur or a Welsh name which won't set her up for mispronouncing her own name or constantly having to explain that it isn't a typo.

From non welsh perspective it really reminds me of LEGO ninjago where lord garmaddon calls his son L loyd and pronounces the L separately. So when I first read it I saw F fleur. That's just me though I think.

I know a Fflur growing up quite happily in Surrey. It's a perfectly nice name.

Fleur.
It's lovely to try to honour her Welsh roots but that spelling looks like a typo. She'll also spend her whole life spelling out her name or explaining how it's pronounced, if she lives overseas no one will have a clue what the name is either. Also most people would presume it is spelt fleur, and there's nothing more frustrating than having people spell or say your name wrong your whole life

I’m Welsh and have seen a few people with the name Fflur. I wouldn’t think twice if I saw it.