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Xavier

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Rosesaredead · 30/04/2019 11:36

How do you pronounce Xavier?

Everyone I have met with this name in the UK or USA pronounces it "Zay-vee-er" which I really like.

But on Mumsnet when people suggest saying it this way they often get ripped to shreds and told to pronounce it the Spanish way which sounds lovely said in a Spanish accent by a Spanish person but just makes me cringe when said in a British accent and which I KNOW would get me so many Hmm looks if I used for my child. In fact, I'd be giving myself Hmm looks.

So what do you think? Is it really necessary to pronounce it the Spanish way? If so, why is this the only name which people passionately feel can't be anglicanised? The poster who say it must be pronounced in the Spanish way are often so aggressive about it that it's made me anxious! Is it really so terrible to pronounce it the English way? Confused Other names don't get people saying this. For example, we love Genevieve for a girl and posted about it on here but nobody told me I should pronounce it 'Gene-vee-ev' because that's how it's said in France.

Advice please! Grin

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starkid · 02/05/2019 17:16

I agree it often sounds a bit weird/try-hard to try and pronounce a name in their accent, if you know what I mean. My DH does it all the time with various food/names/places and it makes me cringe every time. Some words/names are ok to do this, but others just make you sound awful!

I like Zay-vee-er, and have heard za-vee-air too but almost becoming that weird accenty-way to say it (wish I could write what I mean clearer than this!😂 )

Bellag79 · 02/05/2019 12:50

I have a Xavier and we pronounce it a z sound. My son loves his name and told me his name is really cool because it starts with an X!!!

LaMarschallin · 02/05/2019 07:36

I always seem to be quoting Jilly Cooper (I would put a blush emoji but I have to make my peace with the fact I have little knowledge and can only employ the bit I possess).
Just to say Rupert Campbell Black and Taggie have a son who they adopted in Colombia. They called him Xavier (wanting a name that reflected his heritage) and shorten it to Xav. I assume from this that they pronounce it "Zah-vee-er".
But definitely not in an "authentic accent". Strictly RP for the Campell Blacks. Although foreigners all talk "'ow you say? Like zees". Unless they're Chinese... In which case, they'd call me Marschallin La. No matter how good their English was otherwise.
Anyway, I'm rambling now Smile

I like Xavier as a name but it might get irritating if it kept being assumed it came from the X Men if you weren't a fan.

tdam · 02/05/2019 07:20

It's not particular uncommon here in Australia and every single one I've met pronounces it zay- vee-er, like 'wavier'. This seems to be the commonly accepted way of saying it and, to be entirely honest, I feel people can sometimes be extremely over the top about name pronunciation. I would never be ok with completely mispronouncing a name but not being aware of the fact that names have been shared across cultures and anglicised over thousands of years is just naive.

There are SO many example but one is Clémentine, which is French and pronounced completely differently from how it's said in English, and yet the English pronunciation has been long used and is entirely accepted.

OP, like you I've been worrying about using a name from a foreign culture that people may have strong opinions on. In my case the name is Amélie/Amelie, and I've feared being told I'm mispronouncing it but I've gotten over that now (particularly as how I say it is extremely close to the original anyway, as I've been told by multiple French people).

It would be weird anyway, in an English speaking country, to use a Spanish/French name and put on an accent that is clearly not natural. To this some people might say you shouldn't use a name from a culture that isn't yours but again, I think that's naive. So many cultures overlap in so many ways and have done so over hundreds, if not thousands of years, and just as resources and ideas and so on are shared, so are names, to the extent that they become commonly used in those countries who'd previously not been exposed to it.

Anyway, essay over!

NameChangedNoImagination · 02/05/2019 03:50

I'd say zav-yay.

ThriftyMcThrifty · 02/05/2019 03:46

I’d say Zav-ee-ay simply because that’s the most common way I’ve heard it used. But it’s one of those names you can anglisice, and once people know that’s your preference it’s easy enough to remember. A bit like Esme and Esmè

MercyBodle · 02/05/2019 03:06

I've come across a few little Xaviers and all are pronounced Zay-vee-er. It's and English speaking country, and I thought that was the normal pronunciation in English. Nice name.

littlepurplesunset · 02/05/2019 03:01

Aquifolium Melassa

Spanish is Javier and Xavier. The letters J and X have the same sound (only a few exceptions)

Antonin · 01/05/2019 14:35

Large Catholic college in my home town (NZ) and it’s pronounced Zayvier. French friends in England call their son Zavyair

Lavenderblues · 30/04/2019 18:43

Ok, I admit I that I'd pronounce wavier as wayveeer in an English context.

But when I see Xavier for some reason I see Xa vee é!

Of course I'd pronounce his name however he preferred Smile

Aquifolium · 30/04/2019 18:34

I agree with Melassa.

Spanish is spelt with a j.

We had a Xavier at school in the 1980’s. He pronounced it Zav-I-ey. But was mostly called Zav.

Rosesaredead · 30/04/2019 18:26

'laz-ee-ay' 😂😂

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User24689 · 30/04/2019 17:29

ThanksItHasPockets I know! I didn't like to question it tbh for fear of sounding like a know it all. The problem is you can't really correct the pronunciation when the child exists!

ThanksItHasPockets · 30/04/2019 17:05

Where on earth are you from, Lavender? In the sentence 'my hair is wavier than yours' you would pronounce it wav-ee-ay? Do you pronounce 'lazier' as 'laz-ee-ay'?!

Lavenderblues · 30/04/2019 16:51

Think of it as ‘wavier’ with a Z if that helps.

See, I'd pronounce that Wav-ee-é or wav-ee-ay in English.

And yet I pronounce wave as wayv Smile

Melassa · 30/04/2019 16:51

Yes, i’ve only seen it as Javier in Spain, pronounced Hav-ee-ay, if I saw Xavier I would assume French version and thus French pronunciation, which is kzavi-ay or Zavi-ay

donajimena · 30/04/2019 16:39

Have- e- err is Javier in Spanish. Xavier I've heard pronounced with a 'Ch' but this maybe just in the Catalan region? Hopefully someone whose Spanish is better than mine could confirm Grin

ThanksItHasPockets · 30/04/2019 16:34

Think of it as ‘wavier’ with a Z if that helps.

SoupDragon · 30/04/2019 16:17

I don't see how Saviour has anything in common with Xavier?!

Replace the S of Saviour with a Z. That's how some people pronounce Xavier.

Bloomburger · 30/04/2019 15:54

Anything but Ex Ay Vi Ah 🤨

mrsnec · 30/04/2019 15:53

The one we know everyone else called him ex-ay-ve-a.

His parents are film buffs so I assumed that's where they got it from. She is a language teacher and it felt wrong to question it. She said to me well done for getting it right!

I think it's pronounced differntly in different parts of the world and I'd go with what e parents want.I like it pronounced the french, english and spanish way!

Rosesaredead · 30/04/2019 15:34

Lavenderblues - what don't you understand? 😂 It's as simple as the words are almost spelt the same. That's literally it.

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Custardforbreakfast · 30/04/2019 15:20

I would pronounce it Ha-vee-er or Shah-vee-de. It depends on how the person chooses are these are normal pronounciations in Spain. I take football players Xabi Alonso and Xavi as guides fien pronounciation.

Lavenderblues · 30/04/2019 13:18

I don't see how Saviour has anything in common with Xavier?! But obviously some of you do Confused

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 30/04/2019 13:15

It was on our my list,good job I didn't use it if I can't pronounce it!

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