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How late is too late to add an extra middle name, or do I just accept things as they are?

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Yoozanaim · 19/04/2019 21:19

Just that, really!

I felt really lucky that we had no first name naming issues - DH loved the names I put forward for our children, and let me have my first choice for both. I had my heart set on two middle names for each of them, but he is from a custom of no middle names, so felt one middle name was enough of a stretch. He chose one each from my choice of two, and I didn't push the second extra name as I felt very lucky he'd agreed to both my first name choice and one of my favourites for the one middle.

His brother's wife just had a baby and they are chatting, and he and SIL can't agree on a name, and DH says "so lucky we didn't have this drama" - and I said, "well, you didn't let me have the second middle names" - and he said, "oh, I didn't really mind - you could have."

I know this sounds daft but I feel really gutted. :(
Shall I give my head a wobble, or can I add a second middle name after all? Will it look stupid on their official documents? Are there any repercussions I need to consider?

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Whoops75 · 21/04/2019 18:15

For confirmation we got to add a second name, I’ve never used it.
My kids took my maiden name as their confirmation name.

Yoozanaim · 21/04/2019 18:09

Lettuce, ha - I do like a bit of number pleasantness!

Ellen, they are not much more bothered than a newborn baby would be. I'm not doing it - it IS too much of a palaver, but I do feel annoyed with DH, and can't understand why he fought me on this when eldest was born, and now says he wouldn't have minded.

Ah mammamia, that is indeed very sweet.

Same, Moo - we are not having more. But even if we did, it's these current kids that I wanted to bestow the extra name on, not that I necessarily want to use the names up.

Well, I don't think I am especially controlling, sycamore, but yes - we do have control over what we call our children. I didn't just have free reign - he didn't say I could call them whatever I wanted - he just happened to agree with my choices. Also I am not out to 'prove' anything - I am genuinely just gutted he's now saying he would have been happy to have given them an extra middle name after all. I am not getting any more chances to name children, ever, so that's it. And I do feel it's too late now - DC are used to their names as they are.

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sycamore54321 · 21/04/2019 15:13

Maybe it’s just the way your posts are written but you sound unpleasantly controlling. You got free reign with choice of first name, twice. You got your husband to agree to having a middle name when he didn’t want any, twice. You got to choose that middle name, twice. And now, eight years later, you are unpicking your hisband’s memories of a happy and harmonious process of naming your children?

Apart from all of that, I always think it isn’t a right to choose your child’s name, it’s a responsibility. A new baby doesn’t have a name, so you choose the name. But from then on, it’s that person’s name, it belongs to her/him as an individual. You no longer should tinker around with it. Change your own name and add all the middle names you could dream of. But don’t cause this confusion, bureaucratic headache and messing for your children, just to satisfy your own whim and to “prove” yourself right against your husband.

MooBaaLaLaLa · 21/04/2019 00:49

I really regret not adding a second middle name or going for a different one than the family name we did go with (very dull but made an elderly relative happy).
I don't think DS or anyone else will be that bothered about it though.

I'd love another go at naming a baby but sadly it's not to be.

mammmamia · 20/04/2019 23:24

Similar to you I really wanted middle names but my DH didn’t and as I chose the first names I didn’t push it.
I wanted to give our DD my grandmother’s name as a middle name, which by coincidence was also DH’s grandmother’s name so would have been a lovely way to remember them both and a nice connection for our DD.
Happened to mention it to DD when she was about 7 and she loved the idea and now writes and signs her name including the middle name on everything... although we haven’t added it officially and will not be doing so.
She’s 9 now and might grow out of it but it’s quite sweet at the moment.

EllenRach · 20/04/2019 22:50

At those ages I'd discuss with them, I don't think you could unilaterally add a middle name unless the children liked and agreed - if they do, great! My mum added one informally at 11!

LettuceLeave · 20/04/2019 22:48

My DP agreed to let me add the second middle name I wanted when our DD was about a month old and I considered it lots. She's now 11 months and I've decided not to bother! Plus the letters in my daughters names are consecutively 4, 6 & 8 letters long, which we agreed is oddly pleasing 😂 so the 2nd middle name would have ruined that haha.

Yoozanaim · 20/04/2019 17:31

Ruth, that's lovely - do you feel complete?!

Ok, I'm letting it go, pretty much just a rant I guess, so annoyed that I didn't get to give them the extra names - I had accepted it of course, but to then be told he didn't feel strongly about it, despite my being sure I had said so much that I really wanted it at the time, I am hacked off.

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Quartz2208 · 20/04/2019 14:19

Having had a long name please dont add in a middle name - its a right pain when it doesnt all fit in and you have to write for ages.

Plus it would be for you but its not your name anymore it is theirs. They are old enough now to know there name and therefore IMO too late to change

BlueMerchant · 20/04/2019 14:17

How often will these added middle names be used? If purely on documents I think it's just a waste of time and a bit silly.

LittleMissMummaBear · 20/04/2019 14:12

I would just stick to the names they have, it isn’t going to really affect them. Unless they are really keen on getting another middle name and everyone is on board! x

VanillaCoconutDove · 20/04/2019 13:43

Hi really think you need to let this go.

They have a given name you’re pleased with.

They have a middle name.

You want them to have another middle name? As walking talking mini people? It’s all a bit indulgent.

englishdictionary · 20/04/2019 13:24

They won't use an extra middle name anyway so what's the point? Get a hamster and name double barrel the names to name it. Leave your kids alone. You would be creating an additional pita for no reason.

bridgetreilly · 20/04/2019 13:23

So for my 50th I treated myself and I am now Ruth Elizabeth.

That's lovely. Well done, you.

bridgetreilly · 20/04/2019 13:22

If they're old enough to discuss it with, then yes, I think that's too old. Up to a year, maybe, though it seems a bit pointless to me. Just accept that their names are their names now and let it go. Middle names really don't matter much anyway.

DameSylvieKrin · 20/04/2019 12:25

You can use the additional names without doing a legal name change. I used my confirmation name after my middle name for years without any name change after school accidentally put it on my GCSE entries, never caused any problems.
If you got yourself some kind of decorative object or jewellery with the names plus extra middle names, would that scratch the itch?

Raines100 · 20/04/2019 12:19

Sounds like a self-indulgent waste of time tbh. You get to bestow their names at birth, but once they become verbal and begin moving through the world their names belong to them e.g. Catherine decides if she's to be known as Kathy, Katy, or Kitty. Or Isadora. Or John.

The beautifully named Ruth Elizabeth demonstrates this, I think. She's changed it because it's hers.

RuthW · 20/04/2019 08:34

In answer to your question I didn't have a middle name and have wanted one since I was 10. My mum regretted not giving me one but didn't think it was necessary at the time.

My grandmother was Elizabeth, my mum is Brenda Elizabeth and my dd (adult) is Florence Elizabeth May. She got two to make up for my lack of name.

So for my 50th I treated myself and I am now Ruth Elizabeth.

PBobs · 20/04/2019 02:41

Please don't mess with their names. You don't know where they'll end up living or who they will end up marrying. Name changes and name stuff can be a total nightmare if paperwork isn't straightforward. Not everywhere is like the UK and life can be so hard when all you want is to get a new passport with the right name in it. Speaking from experience.

Bumblebeesmum · 20/04/2019 00:43

Virtually obviously please don’t actually assault him Grin

Bumblebeesmum · 20/04/2019 00:43

Punch him instead

Yoozanaim · 20/04/2019 00:25

*am ranting HERE; I am not ranting AT DH in RL.

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Yoozanaim · 20/04/2019 00:24

I expect it is straight-forward enough to do now - I don't want them to resent me when they are older and have to go through any palaver due to this though.
I think I can't do it, but am ranting at DH now being ok about it - when really it is too late. I feel wistful.

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MercyBodle · 19/04/2019 23:33

I know someone who decided to add an extra middle to both her kids' names when they were 4 and 1 year old. (Similar story to yours - in the end he really didn't mind....whereas she felt strongly about it). This was in Australia so don't know how different to where you are, but it was quite straightforward.

Yoozanaim · 19/04/2019 23:33

Ooh Ruth, why?! Care to say what it is? Did you already have a mn?

Yes, it does all sound like a ballache, and yes, I am doing it for me - well, naming them as a baby was for me, but also for them - bestowing upon them the most marvellous names I could think of. I am so annoyed though - I'd obviously made peace with it back when they were born, but knowing DH wasn't as against it as he once said, has annoyed me. I didn't push at all for DC2 as I didn't want her to have two mns if DC1 only had the one.

Haha, NOOOOO, Bumble - I am 100% complete with two. My body does not want to birth another baby either. I am just annoyed I didn't get to use all the names I wanted.

They are eight and four.

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