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Why are people such trolls on here?

86 replies

dave54 · 31/03/2019 15:46

And horrible

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BlackCatSleeping · 31/03/2019 18:18

Isn't trolling like winding someone up?

I think unfortunately a lot of the arsehole responses on Baby Names are actually serious. Like people genuinely believe that if call your son Kyle, you are condemning him to a life of misery.

Just seems that Baby Names attracts a lot of twats.

I still think a lot of the threads started in baby Names are just wind-ups though. Like what does everyone think of the name Clamydia?

BarmyLlama · 31/03/2019 18:16

People seem to cry Troll quite a lot on MN. I think of trolls as people who have come in here and lying with the intention of rousing an argument so you don't have to be the OP.

Smotheroffive · 31/03/2019 18:13

Yeah like posting something nondescript/goady in baby names and buggering off without explanation

Sybelline · 31/03/2019 18:11

Thanks, Millicent.

MillicentMartha · 31/03/2019 18:11

You can consider anything you like to be trolling, Sybelline but it doesn’t make it so.

Sybelline · 31/03/2019 18:10

Yes, @SelkieRinnNaMara, a troll doesn't necessarily have to be a liar. A troll can just be someone who's deliberately provocative with the intention to cause upset.

Sybelline · 31/03/2019 18:07

I agree that you don't have to be the originator of a thread to be a troll, but surely a troll has to be lying on some level - your example is nasty and bigoted but not a piece of trollery.

And if someone posts purely to spout classist shite I consider that to be trolling.

Smotheroffive · 31/03/2019 18:05

Are you the troll Dave ?

You don't really say anything comprehensible in your OP, and have disappeared

SelkieRinnNaMara · 31/03/2019 18:03

I think the trolling has taken a different form in recent years. It's so supercilious and haughty now. It's not fuck you you bitch, it's ''you might benefit from counselling'' and other shit dressed up to avoid falling outside of the code of conduct.
You could say day was night or day was day and there will still be a few people who just get their jollies from arguing with strangers on the internet. You used to be able to run some ideas past a few strangers and get some thoughts, can't do that now. You'll be told to get over yourself, love yourself, get a grip etc.

Saw an example yesterday, woman has worried for maybe 15 years why she bled SO heavily that she needed stiches after sex. Quite a bit of trauma to carry around for 15 years. The minimising was terrible. Some people don't understand that it's not a trivial minor issue just because it's not happening to them.

blueskiesovertheforest · 31/03/2019 17:58

Just being very harsh and condemnatory is flaming not trolling isn't it?

Trolling is a baiting tactic based on lies or at least insincerity.

blueskiesovertheforest · 31/03/2019 17:54

Sybelline I agree that you don't have to be the originator of a thread to be a troll, but surely a troll has to be lying on some level - your example is nasty and bigoted but not a piece of trollery.

FartnissEverbeans · 31/03/2019 17:38

I wouldn’t say ‘trolls’ but I would say that there is a higher than average number of arseholes on Baby Names.

A lot of the comments are classist or racist/xenophobic (‘Sounds American‘ or ‘I’ve never heard it before within a five mile radius of my shitty town so I hate it’). A lot of them are just shit - ‘Tessa? Sounds like Tesco’ and that sort of inane, unhelpful crap. There are also a few deeply unfunny ‘in jokes’, like that Balonz thing, or the listing of random nouns (‘Colander. Misanthropy. Cushion’) and some posters who clearly think they’re hilarious but sadly just aren’t.

As with any board there are some really lovely people and I think it’s a helpful place generally but it does make me roll my eyes quite regularly too.

Sybelline · 31/03/2019 17:27

'What do you think of Kyle'?

'Kyle is a chavvy name and he will probably drop out of school and end up in jail' = troll comment to me.

Sybelline · 31/03/2019 17:26

Yes I get that but as I say you don't have to start a thread to be a troll. Trolls often appear on threads with a comment designed to deliberately goad or wind up. We've all seen it.

blueskiesovertheforest · 31/03/2019 17:21

Sybelline I think Hayf means that of dave54 posts "I want to name my new baby girl Dave, what do you think of when you hear the name?" and people respond "Dave sounds like a 54 year old balding male civil servant in a beige cardigan, please don't call a baby girl that!" Then the response may be harsh but it's giving an opinion on a question dave54 has explicitly asked for an opinion on, therefore unwelcome responses are not by definition troll responses.

Trolls are people pretending to be someone they are not and posting to draw people in and either upset or trick them. They're not people who post things the OP doesn't like, they're not even people who are very blunt and harsh.

BlackCatSleeping · 31/03/2019 17:16

People definitely troll on Baby Names. They like to suggest names they know will wind people up just for fun.

Amongstthetallgrass · 31/03/2019 17:16

dave you do know your on the baby name board.. right??

Sybelline · 31/03/2019 17:14

'On this board though it would usually be after you'd asked for their opinion. Which doesn't make them a troll.'

You don't have to start a thread to be a troll.

blueskiesovertheforest · 31/03/2019 17:13

This is one of the only places you'll get honest reactions. Face to face 99.9% of people will tell you Benita Jo Dick or Princess Consuela Banana Hammock is a beautiful name for your new baby, because it's none of their business and they'd rather be polite than save your baby from growing up with a truly hideous name and deal with the resulting social awkwardness of being the one to say something...

hayf · 31/03/2019 17:12

I don't understand this either, I can only imagine that by troll you mean someone who disagrees with you. On this board though it would usually be after you'd asked for their opinion. Which doesn't make them a troll.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 31/03/2019 17:11

I think ops ask for a name reaction, and if they get a bad reaction they can take it on board and decide if they want to name their child that, and then they can be prepared for negative comments.

I think the trouble comes when an op posts”what do you think of Emily/Kaden/Jack” and members with an Emily/Kaden/Jack are FURIOUS with the replies

IMO mn experience that is

Emily = I’ve always hated that name
Kaden = so downmarket
Jack = booorrrrring,

The problem is with the existing parents of Emily/Kaden/Jack

blueskiesovertheforest · 31/03/2019 17:09

Are you one of those people who think "troll" means "someone who doesn't share my taste or opinions" or do you actually mean the trolls who make up outlandish names or sets of initials to get a rise or fake outrage or catch people out taking them seriously?

Twelve8Ts · 31/03/2019 17:08

There are certain people that definitely don’t come on here to help people or suggest names, they basically just crap all over people’s ideas and they enjoy it. Strange people. The reaction you get to names on here is not the reaction you’d get in real life when introducing your baby, so who cares?
Most people on here seem to be helpful.

DramaAlpaca · 31/03/2019 17:06

Are you the poster who's just had a thread on Baby Names hidden by MNHQ?

BlueMerchant · 31/03/2019 17:04

I think some people ask for opinions and just don't like what others actually think of the names they like and can take it a bit personally.

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