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It's a boy! Name choice thoughts?

109 replies

CollyWombles · 06/01/2019 21:12

We both like Cain for a first name, Douglas for a middle name after DH dad and surname begins with M.

Cain Douglas M.

Thoughts?

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Astronica · 09/01/2019 05:12

I want to echo a previous poster who said that as an active church-goer no-one at her church would bat an eyelid at the name Cain. No-one would at my church either. I dislike the name Cain/Kane just because ... it's not very appealing, seems pretty dull and bland to me, and nothing to do with my faith or beliefs. I like names with a strong sense of character and stronger sounds - like eg Douglas which is a great name.

Hezz · 09/01/2019 05:03

Cade is a billion times nicer than Kade.

CollyWombles · 08/01/2019 23:13

Ah the usual on MN if you post an opinion about someone else's opinion you are being touchy! I didn't realise the baby name section was a case of make your post, people respond but you dont respond to the people who responded unless its to say, ah yes the opinion you gave is one I completely agree with, cheers!

I would say some posters have been touchy in their posts and a few actually rude however I have not been rude to anyone in return. I don't let MN get to me, having been on here for so many years now.

Despite the fact I have already said the thread has made me less certain of Cain now, due to the fact that met be he one day may decide to be a Christian, the thread will continue on with the same sort of replys and the same 'if you didn't want opinions don't ask' like the religious opinion is the only one that matters. There are a good few that have also posted to say they like the name too and some more that have posted opinions such as Cain dingle and it being chavvy. All good.

As for people assuming I am uneducated, well, that's not going to concern me. People make assumptions and judgements every day, if I was going to spend my life trying to avoid judgment I would probably not have much of one!

We like Cade very much and being not made up, it is scottish like myself and means from the wetlands, rather fitting because it rarely stops raining in the Highlands!

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Ethel80 · 08/01/2019 22:46

Cade and Kade just sound made up!

Neverunderfed · 08/01/2019 21:57

Not a fan.

Frillyfarmer · 08/01/2019 21:40

I just can't imagine looking at a newborn and thinking "ah, he looks like a Cain" in the same way I can't imagine ever calling a baby Keith or Brian.

Bloody awful name OP, stick to Douglas!

Choosinganame · 08/01/2019 21:18

I really like Cade or Kade, cool name and 4 letters which is what you're after.

AgathaMisty · 08/01/2019 15:55

In the country where I live they actually use the name Narcissus! Confused

KlutzyDraconequus · 08/01/2019 11:22

Presumably nobody would call their child Judas?

In 2016 there were 23 people.named Judas in America.

Zoflorabore · 08/01/2019 11:13

The headteacher at dd's school has a son called Cain and it surprised me as i think it's very chavvy and she is anything but.

Don't like either name sorry but it looks like your mind is made up regardless of anyone's opinion on MN.

SilverBirchTree · 08/01/2019 11:06

I wouldn't do it.

I think it will make you seem uneducated. The bible is such an influential text, even if you are not religious at all, it has influenced culture, laws, politics, literature etc which surround you every day. I don't think you can just set is aside, and ask everyone ever to consider the name in isolation from it. People from all walks of life, not just the religious, will inevitably connect it with the bible, and you'll seem a bit silly IMO.

Also- Maybe don't post on the internet asking for different opinions if you're going to get touchy about receiving different opinions from people on the internet? 🤷🏻‍♀️

Ethel80 · 08/01/2019 11:04

@CollyWombles I'm confused why you asked about the name if you weren't prepared for people to give their opinions.

If you like it, use it but you asked so you must have some reservations.

Personally, I don't care about the biblical associations but the Cain Dingle thing would put me off a lot. I just don't think it's a very nice name. It doesn't look or sound nice and I don't have any positive associations with it.

I really try not to judge anyone by their name and I'm really not a snob but a lot of people are and the name Cain would conjure up an image of a someone a bit rough and dodgy (adult not child).

I could imagine the Rooney's using it for number 5 now they've moved off K.

Sorry!

BertrandRussell · 08/01/2019 10:56

Yes,Judas is an interesting analogy. Presumably nobody would call their child Judas? And he only betrayed one person!

ThanksItHasPockets · 08/01/2019 10:30

Judas is a much better analogy than Adolf or Amelia.

SumAndSubstance · 08/01/2019 10:05

You've somewhat missed the point about the Cain story if you just view him as someone who wasn't a very good serial killer. The point is that Cain is traditionally the human who revealed man's capacity for murder and evil by killing his own brother.

You also incorrectly assume that people are saying they don't like the connotations because they're very religious. I don't think this is the case. I find it strange when people use names with strong negative cultural references - Jocasta being one that springs to mind, but I don't imagine that Jocasta necessarily did exist and marry and have children with her own son.
None of this need necessarily matter to you of course and you are free to ignore it as others have done. Cain is certainly a much more common name than Judas, the one being shorthand for murder and the other for betrayal. If you have actually asked your friend for permission to name your child after her dead son, then I don't know that I would go back and tell her I'd changed my mind to be honest!

Otterseatpuffinsdontthey · 08/01/2019 10:01

Q

CollyWombles · 08/01/2019 09:52

The first thing I did was clear it with her. I haven't told her I posted on here however sure she doesn't need to see her sons name being ripped to pieces.

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slappinthebass · 08/01/2019 09:35

A lovely girl I went to school with had a son called Cain that sadly passed away and my kids school have a sports cup named after him. It was actually my daughter that initially suggested Cain as the name Cain to her was a lovely popular boy she used to know! We hadn't thought of it before her suggestion but it's the one name so far we both really like with the added bonus of the kids liking it too.

Woah. Actually, I missed this bit. You can't steal this name in this case, unless you've cleared it with the old school friend.

slappinthebass · 08/01/2019 09:26

I really like it. I wouldn't be worried about the origin.

AgathaMisty · 08/01/2019 09:19

Ooh, Cade is nice, OP! First time I've heard it.

michonn · 08/01/2019 09:04

BertrandRussell not at all, I meant that nobody cares anymore! It's very trivial & the world is a lot less of a judgmental place

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 08/01/2019 08:58

Not too keen on Douglas.

It’s currently very popular for puppies, so you might get a canine Douglas when you call him in the park.

BertrandRussell · 08/01/2019 08:44

“Lol it's 2019, it'll only be the parents of your sons friends that might judge your name choice,”

Because everyone born after 2019 is ignorant? Bit harsh......

CollyWombles · 08/01/2019 08:37

Could you imagine Adolf, Amelia, Myra and mythical Cain sat in a group together.

Hitler: I killed millions of people, how bout you?

Amelia: I killed around 400, tame I know but it was in the 1800s.

Myra: (shuffles and looks a little embarrassed) I killed 5.

Hitler and Amelia side ways glance at each other.

Hitler: Ahem. And you Mythical Cain? You have been around longer than all of us, in books in hotel rooms, tell us, how many did you kill?

Hitler, Myra and amelia all lean forward in anticipation.

Mythical cain: erm Well, shuffle, fidget, cough. Well. Erm. I killed one.

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michonn · 08/01/2019 08:31

I think Cain is more modern as a first name than Douglas. And Cain Douglas M seems to flow more. But again, yours and DH choice!

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