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Names with strong cultural references

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dayonara · 20/12/2018 20:54

Where would you draw the line about using a name with a strong cultural reference? My girls list has lots of names on it that I feel are strongly associated with one celebrity, film etc and I'm struggling to decide whether I should steer clear or whether I'm overthinking it. We tend to favour more common names for boys so our boys list doesn't have the same issue.

Celine (Dion)
Elsa (Frozen, or Born Free depending on the generation)
Lyra (Philip Pullman)
Adele (singer)
Juliet (& Romeo)
Delia (chef)
Miranda (comedian)

I feel like at this rate I'm going to talk my self out of every single name at this rate but feel I'd get irritated if when I introduced my child people were constantly saying " oh, like the singer" etc. But I do really love the names. Do you think the above are usable or best avoided and has anyone else had this issue?

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birdgal4848 · 27/12/2018 23:05

While I don’t like all of them, Elsa is the only one that I think would make people think - frozen - especially as there is a frozen 2 coming out soon.
The others are just names that famous people happen to have (in my opinion) & the connection wouldn’t be made. Juliet does make people think ‘romeo’ but I don’t think would say ‘oh like Romeo and juliet’ the way they would say ‘oh like from frozen’
Of all of your names - absolutely love Lyra - beautiful name - go for it.

Itsear · 25/12/2018 02:51

None of your child’s generation will have heard of Miranda the ‘comedian’. From your list I like Dalia and Lyra.

DarlingNikita · 24/12/2018 12:59

I think nearly all of these stand on their own and don't have specific/exclusive connotations of one person.

But for me Lyra immediately conjures up His Dark Materials, which isn't a bad thing per se but I do know what you mean.

Elsa is a bit 'tagged' to Frozen at the moment, I suppose, but time is moving on quickly and that film is already receding into the future; I wouldn't think people will tie it exclusively to the film for long.

JufusMum · 24/12/2018 11:14

It's so annoying when you like a name but it has connotations.
I have a Jude, and she's spent her life getting "Hey Jude" sung at her (used to make her cry when she was little) or people going "what like Jude Law? But that's a boys name?" (actually it's unisex arghhh) and we're often asked "oh are you Beatles fans".

No, none of them, just loved the name.

BehemothPullsThePeasantsPlough · 24/12/2018 09:18

OMG reddwarves, I’ve just checked and indeed he was christened Heath. I read somewhere at the time of his death that it was Heathcliff and just believed it but I’ve been wrong all these years. My apologies to his parents for judging them harshly.

RedDwarves · 24/12/2018 08:24

Heath Ledger’s name was actually Heathcliff which is a terrible name for a baby. You would have to struggle not to ask his parents “have you actually read the book?”

Where'd you get this from?

MerryMarigold · 24/12/2018 07:45

I love Priscilla though. Wish I'd named dd that.

MerryMarigold · 24/12/2018 07:44

Elsa was popular 100 years ago (my great grandmother's name) and there are children in our family named after her before the film came out. I don't think it's exclusively linked to the film, but I don't particularly like it.

Beeziekn33ze · 24/12/2018 01:25

Lyra: lyre!

PsychoCrayon · 23/12/2018 19:17

Selene is lovely, as is Adele (Adela?)

Not keen on Lyra, sounds like Liar

Love Juliet (Julia?)
Love Elsa (Elsie?)

Not keen on Delia (the step mum from Beetlejuice

I had a horrible boss called Miranda so that puts me off

BehemothPullsThePeasantsPlough · 23/12/2018 14:56

Heath Ledger’s name was actually Heathcliff which is a terrible name for a baby. You would have to struggle not to ask his parents “have you actually read the book?”

CaptainCallisto · 23/12/2018 14:25

I have an Edward and have been asked numerous times if it's because of Twilight (which it wasn't. It never even occurred to me until the first person asked!).

If someone has a particular association with a name they'll make that connection and assume you have too, even if it's an otherwise common/traditional name. Like a PP said; any name could suddenly become ubiquitous with something or someone six months after baby is born...

llemma · 23/12/2018 14:02

We also have a Lyra (hi to all the other Lyra parents!). I've had many more people assume it's Lila than I have ask if she's named after the books. There's a bbc series of his dark materials due out next year so might become more well known/popular then

00100001 · 23/12/2018 14:00

ANgeliki159 you named your baby Aquaman?? :O

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Angeliki159 · 23/12/2018 11:07

My son is named after my fave superhero.

EmNetta · 23/12/2018 00:19

Please, please don't lumber the child with any "famous" name - I've suffered from this all my life, not because the parents liked the name, but because Mother decided at the last minute that she disliked the family name other people had decided on. As she explained. "they couldn't argue about it in church, I just had to find another name beginning with S as people had been busy embroidering that on baby clothes" Thanks a lot Mum. I would have actually preferred the original.

Medicaltextbook · 22/12/2018 19:54

I would avoid already infamous names (Adolf/Myra spring to mind). and maybe where the celebrity is so famous they only use one name (Elvis/Madonna). Otherwise I think it is pot luck whether your child’s name may become associated with anyone. (I had never come across the name Isis before there were associations with the terrorism. now I know it is the name of an Egyptian goddess but that still won’t be my first thought if I meet someone with the name.)

SoftSheen · 22/12/2018 19:33

I think that all of those names are fine, with the exception of Lyra, which was unheard of before the Pullman character. That said, Lyra is a still a nice name and if you like it, use it.

empa · 22/12/2018 17:43

Not just children, I named the cat after a popular soap character, now hated by everyone, including me. Poor puss.

DarkDarkNight · 22/12/2018 16:35

I think Elsa is fine actually, I think the Frozen obsession has pretty much passed by.

Delia is the one I would associate most strongly with a person.

MikeUniformMike · 22/12/2018 13:46

Celine - fashion house. Prefer Selene.
Elsa - lioness or Frozen
Lyra (Philip Pullman) - constellation. Will date.
Adele - i know 2. Not keen on the name or the singer.
Juliet (& Romeo) - Shakespeare
Delia (chef) - it's fine.
Miranda (comedian) - Shakespeare again.

abcriskringle · 22/12/2018 13:25

I think you'll be fine with all of them except possibly Elsa - people would probably spend a lot of time singing 'let it go' at her / you. Personally I love Juliet from your list and Lyra is lovely too.
I know what you mean though - sometimes you find people associate the oddest things with a name. I like the name Celeste and when I mentioned it to dh he said - "oh like Daphne and Celeste?!" (The shit girl band duo who sang 'ooh stick you!' in the early noughties or late nineties). It didn't end up on our shortlist for that reason!

alphasox · 22/12/2018 13:20

I have a Heath and a couple of people said “oh like Heath Ledger?” And i say, yes. That’s it. End of conversation. We didn’t name him after Heath ledger, we just liked the name.
But actually very very few people have said this to me. So I wouldn’t worry about it at all if I were you and go with the name you love. Those famous people won’t be famous forever.

SockQueen · 22/12/2018 11:39

I think there'll be a few Khaleesis or similar whose parents might regret their choice in a few years, but that's a very specific reference, all the ones you mention are not particularly tied to one person/thing.

DarklyDreamingDexter · 22/12/2018 11:14

Chose a name you love. I wouldn't worry about the connotations. Even if you chose a really unusual name, there is no guarantee that in a year or two or maybe longer, a character in a hugely popular programme might come along with the exact same name. E.g. If you'd called your child Peppa a few years ago (just as an example) then Peppa Pig came along, that child would forever be asked 'Like the pig?!'