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Does my son have an awful name?

231 replies

tabithamay · 15/11/2018 07:53

I’ve done a similar thread on Nameberry but wanted other people’s opinions. I have a 17-year-old DS who’s started his second year at college, and we chose Ernest Leopold as a first and middle, after my DH’s great-grandfather. Recently, he’s become very aware of it as people are telling him how ugly/old-fashioned/frumpy/strange it is. What do you think?

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willthedoctorchaseme · 15/11/2018 10:54

Do you mean he has reached 17 years of age and this hasn't ever come up before now? How strange I'd have though someone would have pointed this out before now.

LeeMiller · 15/11/2018 10:53

I love Ernest - and the nicknames Ernie, Ernst or Nesto. It's not so different from Alfie/Albie/Freddie/Teddy etc type names which are everwhere now, and better than being the 4th Will or Jack in the class.

It's the combination with Leopold that makes it a bit heavy and old fashioned - removing that from the ID badge would be a big improvement.

NameChange30 · 15/11/2018 10:47

They shouldn't have put his middle name on his ID badge. Just an admin error but they should be more careful and they should know that teenagers tease each other.

Personally I'm not a fan of Ernest/Ernie. Some "old fashioned" names are timeless but I don't think that's one of them. However, it's subjective isn't it - if you and your husband liked the name when you chose it, fair enough. I think that if your son really disliked it, the issue would have come up before now. If he prefers Leo he could use that but I think the ship has sailed for his current peer group.

FWIW I think that ideally a first name should be chosen in its own right, and a middle name should be after family. If choosing an unusual first name you could give a more common middle name as a back-up option.

Ignoramusgiganticus · 15/11/2018 10:46

I have a name that was before it's time. I never had a problem with it and the benefit now is that everyone thinks I'm younger than I actually am.

I think it's how he deals with it. If he isn't bothered then nobody else will be. But that will be easier when there is only one name on the id badge.

Cranberry18 · 15/11/2018 10:44

I like it, its very traditional sounding Smile

chocatoo · 15/11/2018 10:44

Ernest/Ernie is pretty dire...I can't help but wonder what you were thinking. Leo, however is nice - I'd suggest he switches to that.

peachescariad · 15/11/2018 10:43

Why are you even asking now? What's the point?...or your point? he can't change it...poor lad

vasmontenegro · 15/11/2018 10:40

I might have a wee bit of enlightenment on this. I work with kids’ names: I make personalised decorative name signs, and my orders over the last year for baby nursery and younger children shows a subtle turn in the tide from ‘creative’ , spelt in phonetic rather than correct way, show-off, ‘I want to be unique’ type names to far more classic, Victorian and Edwardian names.

I make a lot of Mabel, Olive, Agatha, Albert, Reuben, ...

And much less Chantanelle, Jaydon, Amelia-Rose, Kaden, Ka$H,...

And yep, Kash was spelt with a dollar sign instead of an S. That child’s life must be mapped out for him already.

I think people are gradually becoming fed up of the whole celebrity over sharing, turning themselves inside-out on social media for the whole world to see their innards, i’m so unique yet somehow I’ve styled myself to look like every other person who thinks they’re unique too, ....

There’s also an Ernie in my son’s junior school class and he’s one of the cool little kids!

Leopold just brings to mind Belgium or Russia for me, and our country has an Eastern European or two in every classroom now with their (especially the Lithuanians) names that look like they’ve been shook up in a hat and too many vowels have fell out! So kids are growing up used to unusual names with their friends.

ittakes2 · 15/11/2018 10:29

I also really like it but yes very old fashioned. Surely you just call him Ernie or Leo?

tabithamay · 15/11/2018 10:26

I think now the old names are coming back, but less so for his generation, and there’s an abundance of Jack, Will, Tom, Alfie, Josh, etc.

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junecat · 15/11/2018 10:23

My Dad is Ernest but shortened to Ernie. My Nephew has named his little boy after him and he's an Ernie too :)

He seems to fit in with everyone else at reception, lots of children with older names x

RedRoseReb · 15/11/2018 10:18

He can namechange to Ernst for the duration of college!

At least he has learned to put whatever name he prefers to be known by on such cards or when registering for courses or jobs.

LillianGish · 15/11/2018 10:17

No he doesn’t have a dreadful name, but it is from the Jacob Rees Mogg book of baby names so not entirely surprised that some kids are making fun of it. I’m surprised it’s taken 17 years for this to happen and that friends haven’t got used to it by now. It is a distinctive name, but presumably that was the idea when you gave it to him. He needs to own it.

Ariela · 15/11/2018 10:15

My grandpa was Ernie, he was born in Victorian times. I like the name, at least people will be able to spell it correctly, it's not one of these silly modern names with made up spelling or double barrelled nonsense.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 15/11/2018 10:12

Merlotmummy

Are you a Sydney?

Just curious.

tabithamay · 15/11/2018 10:11

Which I think is because that’s how it’s translated in Denmark, Germany, etc.

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tabithamay · 15/11/2018 10:11

He does have a Danish friend in one of his classes who calls him Ernst. He does love that, as do I.

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FellSwoop · 15/11/2018 10:09

I think it's a great name. Love it.

flissfloss65 · 15/11/2018 10:08

He should ask for a new badge with just Ernest on it.

Or own the names and just have a comeback about them.

I like your dd’s nickname for him of Nesto. I’d call him Ernst.

Ihaventgottimeforthis · 15/11/2018 10:07

There were 182 Ernests born in 2017, more popular than Christopher, Richard,Timothy, Hugh, Paul, Simon, Stephen, Philip, Ian - all names that were everywhere when I was growing up.

MeMeMeow85 · 15/11/2018 10:04

It’s the perfect name for a 19th century Prussian king. Yes, I think it’s an awful name.

Pompom42 · 15/11/2018 10:04

I really like the name it's not stupid or old fashioned. I think it's the age and he's aware he isnt called Joshua or Bailey etc or a super modern name.
When he's older I think he won't even think twice about it.

Cosmoa · 15/11/2018 10:01

I do think it's old fashioned and not my cup of tea. But I find it odd that people are pointing it out. Once I'm told someones name I very much just accept it. Unless it's a name I love! If I love the name I hear I always tell the person!

Ihaventgottimeforthis · 15/11/2018 10:01

There's also Ernie Macmillan in Harry Potter.

Perfectpeony · 15/11/2018 10:01

No. Ernest is a fabulous name. He should own it. Smile