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British name or foreign (Italian) name for dual-nationality child abroad?

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LeeMiller · 25/05/2018 09:34

Hi all, we're just starting to think about naming our first child. I'm British and DH is Italian, we live in Italy and are planning to stay here. Our baby will have an Italian surname. I would like a middle name (although it's not common here and should probably be short as child will legally have to include it in signature etc, so it will be used more than middle names usually are in the UK). We want a British element to be included in the name somewhere. My name poses problems here (loads of middle names so too long for forms, it's not spelled phonetically, lots of Hs etc) so we'd try to avoid those by choosing familiar/classic British names that are easy for Italians to pronounce.

We have a rough shortlist of names, both British and Italian, but we can't decide how to combine them. Our choices are:

a) British first name and Italian middle name

b) Italian first name and British middle name
c) 'International' first name pronounced the same(ish) in both countries and British middle name

DH prefers an Italian first name as it's easier for the child, whereas I have a common English name and would have loved something foreign and unusual growing up, so favour a British first name.

I'm curious, people bringing up kids outside your home country, what option did you choose and how has it worked out? If you grew up with an obviously foreign-sounding name, did/do you like it?

(Our current shortlist includes James, Joseph, Jude, Max, Cosimo, Amadeo, Leonardo and Lucy, Rose, Rosamund, Rosalind, Charlotte, Eleonora, Clara, Alida, Livia and Lucia - particularly if you're Italian, what's your perception of those names? )

Sorry that was so long!

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LeeMiller · 25/05/2018 10:07

I guess I'm just projecting my desire for a less boring name onto the baby. And maybe feeling more conscious of my foreignness now I'm pregnant abroad.

The name day is a good point mrsnec.

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sanitygirl · 25/05/2018 10:07

We went for option c - "international" first and middle name and Italian surname. Without giving too much away these were the ones we considered (daughter has two of these names): Beatrice, Greta, Ava, Anna. My son was born in the uk and has a more Italian first name that we have shortened to an English version

TeenTimesTwo · 25/05/2018 10:06

The other 2 I had were Rosa and Luca

LeeMiller · 25/05/2018 10:02

Ok, so it seems the consensus so far is that an English name is not a good idea and that something dual is best! Thank you, probably what I needed to hear.

Lots of the dual names we like (including the ones you mention Teen!) are existing family/friend names, or sound comical with the surname, I think we'd opt for something more Italian but easy for Brits to say, and maybe with the potential for a British nickname.

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StableGenius · 25/05/2018 10:01

There are loads and loads of (c) options, especially for girls.

For a boy, could you call him Massimilio on the birth certificate but use Max day to day?

ladybug92 · 25/05/2018 09:58

I meant that it wasn't so hard for anyone, not my family or DHs or our community.

mrsnec · 25/05/2018 09:58

My dc are both British but we live in Europe. They were born here and both have names that sound English but are of Greek origin.

I am not religious but I want them to go to a local school and celebrate their name day etc so ds's name does have an Orthodox Saint. Dd's is more mythological but she has a saints day for her middle name which has been UK top 10 for years.

We have Welsh and Ausrian heritage between us too and I tried to get all 4 in but went Anglo/Greek in the end.

So yes, do 'c'

ladybug92 · 25/05/2018 09:57

We live in Australia and I am from Croatia, my husband in from NZ. We chose a name that is international and can be pronounced in both English and Croatian. It wasn't so hard. Surname is English and middle name was Croatian.

TeenTimesTwo · 25/05/2018 09:54

Arabella would sound lovely in an Italian accent I would think.

Thomas should be easy enough to pronounce but is more English?

LeeMiller · 25/05/2018 09:52

Thanks Peanutty, good to have your first-hand experience. I have one of those '5 in a class' 1980s names so that is probably blinding me to the practicalities.

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clarrylove · 25/05/2018 09:50

A dual name eg. Alfeo, shortened to Alfie?

LeeMiller · 25/05/2018 09:49

Sure, but if it's international/dual, it practice doesn't that become Italian, since we live here? I think Italian names are lovely, I'm just wondering whether for the child it's nice to have a more unusual foreign name that references their heritage... or maybe that's just annoying in real life?

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Peanutty86 · 25/05/2018 09:47

I'm in a similar situation - I'm German, husband is British and we live in UK. I said from the beginning that I want our children to have an international or British name that is easily pronounced in German.
I personally don't believe in mixing foreign names together, my own first name is not very common where I come from and people over here cannot pronounce it and I always have to spell it out several times. I will not want my child having to go through this on a daily basis. In your case, I would go with the international or easy Italian first name and then maybe an easy British middle name.

Helspopje · 25/05/2018 09:37

Some are dual
Eg
Emilia
Raphael