Help protect children from gaming harms.

Take our survey

Please or to access all these features

Baby names

Find baby name inspiration and advice on the Mumsnet Baby Names forum.

Dante. Is it too mean in these circumstances?

37 replies

QuickGetTheEggplants · 17/05/2018 02:22

DS is due in 3 weeks, and we have the first name sorted but we're still deciding on the middle name. We thought we were set, but then my DH suggested Dante "because he's put us through 9 circles of Hell".

I counted, and that's literally true. From being a rainbow baby after a late loss, to various scares and misdiagnoses, to having high risk cord complications and an increased risk of stillbirth, there are actually 9 different incidents that have caused us a lot of anxiety during pregnancy.

To be fair, we have both always liked the idea of Dante as a middle name anyway, but I'm not sure if the extra meaning it carries now makes it more perfect, or too negative.

If he ever asks us how we chose it we wouldn't say, "because you put us through Hell", obviously, because this poor little foetus hasn't actually done anything wrong, we'd probably just say we liked it. Even so I'm not sure if Dante is fitting or mean?

OP posts:
Are your children’s vaccines up to date?
New posts on this thread. Refresh page
BillowingFluffs · 17/05/2018 13:06

Like the name but the explanation is just horrible even if it is just a dark joke.

o0o0 · 17/05/2018 12:55

I'm so sorry for your loss Op. I too, have been through something very similar.

For me, it sounds as though you are naming your baby for YOU. What he put you through, what his birth means to you.
You're not naming him for HIM. He will forever be burdened by this and really it's quite selfish imo. I'm not sure how I'm explaining it well but I think it's a negative idea.

ladybirdsaredotty · 17/05/2018 11:09

I'm sorry for you past loss, OP. That's really sad. But I wouldn't use this name in these circumstances. I love the name and it was in our list for baby DS, but if I was already thinking along the lines you are (which I wasn't), I wouldn't use it. It keeps the negativity at the forefront way too much. I'd name him something with more joyful (or at least neutral!) connotations to you.

ShowMeTheElf · 17/05/2018 10:55

It isn't that he's put you through hell though is it? It's that you went through hell to have him and here he is, all worth it and fabulous. It could be a really positive thing!
Look how much you went through to have him and now he's almost here!

pinkyredrose · 17/05/2018 10:54

Use the name. Just don't tell him or anyone why!

SleepingStandingUp · 17/05/2018 10:50

Why not call him Dante because he GOT you rather than put you through hell
I like this. Divine Comedy isn't just about hell, its about endurance and perseverance.
You and he have gone through the 9 circles of hell to be together and now you are you can climb the rest of the mountain of luge y together.

However I'd probably just tell him yiu really like the name / named after a favourite author until he's older and stick with we've (3) began through hell

LoveInTokyo · 17/05/2018 10:43

This is awful, however you try to justify it. Please do not do this to an apparently much wanted and loved child.

MadMags · 17/05/2018 09:13

There are plenty of strong, positive names associated with literary characters who have overcome.

What you’re basically saying is “you put us through hell”. Regardless of how you justify it.

Plus, is that what you want to think every time you look at your child?

Your DH sounds like a bit of a knob, actually. “Dark humour” often translates to “arsehole, but people don’t get me wah, wah, wah.”

But it’s your kid!

What’s that poem?

They fuck you up, your mum and dad...

PotteringAlong · 17/05/2018 09:10

No one will think of the whole of the divine comedy, they will just think of the inferno. And it’s a really mean name to give to a baby.

elQuintoConyo · 17/05/2018 09:05

Having been told multiple times that i was "such a horrible baby that they should have chucked me and kept the afterbirth lol " i would choose a different name without any negativity attached.

If he is a rainbow baby then give him the middle name Unicorn or something.

jugglingsatsumas · 17/05/2018 09:00

Why not call him Dante because he GOT you rather than put you through hell?

Jammycustard · 17/05/2018 08:57

No. Aside from the negative aspects, if you told me that story I would think you were a bit Hmm.

ThisIsTheFirstStep · 17/05/2018 08:56

Agree with bridget . My first pregnancy was awful but tbh, I have mainly forgotten it. I certainly wouldn’t want to think of it every time I saw my daughter.

bridgetreilly · 17/05/2018 08:55

No. It's not so much that it's mean to him, it's the negative connotations it will have for you and your husband. When he's born, it's not a good idea to keep having something that reminds you of those whenever you talk to him.

raisedbyguineapigs · 17/05/2018 08:48

No I think it's too mean. Would you really be explaining the whole of The Divine Comedy to anyone who asked? The most known part is the seven circles of hell, especially with the 'joke' included. I like the meaning of Theo in your circumstances. I do like a middle name with meaning.

strawberrypenguin · 17/05/2018 07:10

I think it's fine OP. It's a nice name, it has a lot of personal meaning for you and as you say it's not all negative. Plus it will be his middle name which most people won't know anyway.

Hope the rest of your pregnancy is smooth and you have your lovely little chap safe in your arms soon.

felicitythemangyfox · 17/05/2018 07:05

I like it - middle names need a "story" imo (obviously just emphasise the good bits

  • to EVERYONE, not just him - not the circles of hell stuff)
FogCutter · 17/05/2018 07:01

I like the name but not your reason for using it.

My parents gave me a nice name but with a dark/ 'funny' meaning for them, it wasn't funny to a child I can tell you.

validusername123 · 17/05/2018 06:59

And actually it's meaning is apparently 'enduring'

validusername123 · 17/05/2018 06:59

I love it as a name, and there are a few other other famous Dantes -a football player, a poet. It's a name used in Italy (although not super popular) and if you weren't to advertise the fact, I doubt many people know the full saga of the Divine Comedy, even if they have heard of its author.
We couldn't use it as a name for DC as our surname already has it in, so we used it for our business name instead.

lalaloopyhead · 17/05/2018 06:50

No, I don't like it. I think you are giving the name far too much negative meaning.

I understand how this pregnancy must have been very stressful and difficult for you, and even more so under the circumstances I would chose something with a joyful meaning.

coffeeandrainbows · 17/05/2018 06:44

What about Theo or Theodore meaning divine gift? Still got that divine comedy connection maybe but only obvious for you and dh, and it’s a very positive name.

RedDwarves · 17/05/2018 04:37

The problem is, even with your additional comment, you're giving him this narrative from birth. Don't let his life be dictated by your pregnancy with him.

It's negative, whichever way you slice it.

ThisIsTheFirstStep · 17/05/2018 04:30

However you try to justify it, relating your baby’s name to hell in any way is only fine if you have already saved up thousands of pounds in money for therapy.

If someone told me that their name was Dante because of the connection to the Divine Comedy, I’d assume their parents were the kind of smug abusers who act like pillar of the community very very smart types while taunting their kids daily.

It’s a terrible idea, OP.

QuickGetTheEggplants · 17/05/2018 04:22

Thanks for the feedback. All the comnents about it being negative made me reflect, though. If it was just about DH's very dark joke it would be a bit too dark.

But looking at the Divine Comdey overall, it could also be a very positive name. Dante and Virgil do leave hell in the end, then in Purgatorio they climb a mountain, which could symbolise his struggle to survive and meet us, and his continued growth throughout his life (or the actual religious allegory that was intended, but whatever). And then there's Paradiso, which seems obviously positive.

Shockingly enough I actually do want him. That's kind or why he's putting us through hell. I already have one birth certificate with Not Born Alive written on it in big bold letters. I think coming dangerously close to getting a second one within a year is pretty negative. But pregnancy is just one part of the journey and Inferno is just one part of the story.

OP posts: