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Welsh names

64 replies

isitwinetimeyet16 · 29/01/2018 18:52

Hello! Due soon with DC2 - we already have a Bethan and I need some ideas for other Welsh names! I quite like Elin for a girl but boys I have no idea.... would love some inspiration!

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LouiseBrooks · 01/02/2018 12:48

LouiseBrooks, people who only speak one language, typically English, really struggle.Anything vaguely complicated and you will get eye-rolling, throat or phlegm clearing, WTAF type comments, etc.

Yes I know since I have in my family a Lowri, Rhian, Llewellyn, Catrin, Efa and even a Meinir (cue jokes about miners of course). Half the time it's just laziness or, as a friend of mine once said, "the spirit of the Empire" being alive and well, rather than not being able to pronounce some of them (Lowri and Efa for example are hardly difficult). I personally think we shouldn't give in to it but I'm a stubborn cow.

Newdadofgirl · 01/02/2018 12:32

I also love Jac

Newdadofgirl · 01/02/2018 12:30

I also love Rhiannon (my Mam)
Mair (gran)
Blodwen,
Blodyn,
Cariad,
I also love Blodeuwedd (from Mabinogion but send her to Karate lessons)
Elin

Newdadofgirl · 01/02/2018 12:19

If my beautiful girl (called Efa Miwriel) had been a boy she would have probably been Macsen (last Roman Governor and a bit of a hero).
I also love:
Afon,
Dewi,
Arthen,
Huw,
Dylan,
Twm Sion
Rhys! (I am Rhys Dyfed!!)
Dyfed!
Llyr,
Aled,
Llew, and Llywelyn,
Osian,
I also love Bendigeidfran (from Mabinogion but a bit of a mouthful! LOL)
Aled,
Alun,
Jac.

DullAndOld · 01/02/2018 12:18

well I knew a Seren who must be at least 60 by now, so that is nonsense.

My favourite girls' names in Welsh are Angharad (the English would murder it and make it 'Anger-ad') and Buddug..:) make of the latter what you will, Anglophones.

Favourite boys' names - Iestyn, Ieuan, Ianto. If you are going to be living in England, these could present a problem.

Shednik · 01/02/2018 12:13

Bethan, Carys and Dylan are definitely not Sharon and Darren in this part of Wales. They are more Catherine and David. Names that you'll find in all classes and generations.

Seren is also a popular name that has been used for 30+ years (Welsh speaker here)

isitwinetimeyet16 · 01/02/2018 05:52

That's interesting Mike - I didn't realise the background that Bethan and Dylan were popular in the 60s! Bethan couldn't be any easier to say but we still get a lot of 'Bethany' which irritates me (so similar but I hate that name, probably unfairly!) so I can only imagine if I went for something harder to pronounce. I loved Seren but a Welsh speaking friend told me it's only recently been used as a name instead of a word and still sounds jarring which put me off a bit. Some absolutely fantastic suggestions, have given me loads of ideas - thank you so muxh everyone who took the time to comment.

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MikeUniformMike · 31/01/2018 13:42

“Remember that a person's name is to that person the sweetest and most important sound in any language” Dale Carnegie

Not good when somebody decides that your "That has to be a pisstake" name contains a spit in it.

MikeUniformMike · 31/01/2018 13:29

LouiseBrooks, people who only speak one language, typically English, really struggle.Anything vaguely complicated and you will get eye-rolling, throat or phlegm clearing, WTAF type comments, etc.

For example, they will simply not understand that a Tobias is Tob-ee-as not Tob-eye-as or that Ffion isn't really Fiona or that Rhian isn't pronounced Ree-Anne.

You can't change these people, but you can make your life easier for your children . I know it's not right but having had someone poke fun at your name is awful.

I know I am generalising a bit but I have been upset by it more than once.

spiderlight · 31/01/2018 13:04

Rhidian
Rhys
Sion
Aled
Elis
Macsen

Ffion
Cadi
Cerys
Carys
Sian

MikeUniformMike · 30/01/2018 15:25

I get that Well. Dylan, Carys and Bethan seem dated to welsh speakers because they were very popular in the 1960s. They're Darren and Karen type names to me, but to people who don't speak welsh they seem new and fresh.

WellTidy · 30/01/2018 15:19

Mike the three Caryses I know are all very much under 50 and none of them speak Welsh (but all live and were born in Wales).

ErrantBakedBean · 30/01/2018 14:49

I really like Halwyn for a boy. I think it means 'salt'. And Hal is a great nickname.

Heartofglass12345 · 30/01/2018 14:35

Oo i like Lowri too

Heartofglass12345 · 30/01/2018 14:34

I like Eira for a girl but had 2 boys
I like Osian, Harri, Ellis (or Elis)

LouiseBrooks · 30/01/2018 14:01

Most English people wouldn’t have a clue with some of the names.

Well perhaps they could learn? Admittedly most English people seem incapable of pronouncing LL properly (I have English cousins and grew up mostly in England and most people say, for example, Loo or - even worse - Clue for Llew) but many of those mentioned on this thread are not especially difficult and if told once how to pronounce them shouldn't prove much of an issue.

Choose the name YOU like.

MikeUniformMike · 30/01/2018 13:53

I like Catrin and Aled. Carys would be a 50+ yr old welsh speaker.
I like Llŷr and Llew too but not sure if they would work in England.
Some of the welsh names get mangled by non-welsh speaking welsh folk too and some sound a bit different depending on location.

Lookingtothehighlands · 30/01/2018 13:41

My all time favourite Welsh boys names are Llyr and Llew, but they will be horribly mangled and mispronounced outside Wales.

llangennith · 30/01/2018 13:37

I live in Wales, not Welsh speaking, but like all Welsh people I know the pronunciation ‘rules’. So all those names are easy for me to pronounce and spell. Most English people wouldn’t have a clue with some of the names. Stick to the straightforward Welsh names.

WellTidy · 30/01/2018 13:29

I love Catrin and Aled. Love love love. Also love Carys in a big way.

MikeUniformMike · 30/01/2018 12:21

I'll probably get flamed but I would avoid names with:
Rh, ngh
ei, eu ,ew
ia
Ae, Au
uw
yw
Ge, Gi
Ce, Ci
Ch
Ll
F
Dd
letter combinations as they tend not to travel. Names ending in -an tend to sound like -un etc. Try the names out to see if they are wet with an WTF attitude or if they get mangled. If you are ok with Elin pronounced as ELL-in then go for it.
(FWIW the welsh pronunciation of Elin is ELL-in with the I sounding like the i in the english word big)

PiecesOfHate · 30/01/2018 10:54

Ceinwen
Rhian
Rhiannon
Lowri

Dylan
Rhodri
Owen
Owain
Llewyn

MikeUniformMike · 29/01/2018 23:46

It sounds a bit made up. I'm not keen on Gwen-, Gwyn- or -wyn and -wen names. I hate when names get the wrong suffix like Bronwyn or Olwyn. They're just wrong. They're Bronwen and Olwen, both lovely.

Heratnumber7 · 29/01/2018 23:23

Caradog
Meredydd
Huw
Ieuan
Gareth
Taliesin
Iolo
Llewellyn

YassQueen · 29/01/2018 23:20

Is Gwenlli a real name?

Yes.

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