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Welsh name help!

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MummyMcCabe · 10/06/2017 07:52

Hi. We live in Wales but don't speak Welsh and really like the name Rhian. The way we pronounce it is 'rhiun' and not 'rhiAnne', is that ok? I've heard people be called both see. Thanks!!

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Huffletuff · 13/06/2017 00:27

Every Rhian I know (South) is Rhee-un. I don't know one under 30.

Hywel is Howell here and Dylan is either Dul-an or Dul-un.

MikeUniformMike · 12/06/2017 23:50

To my awful Welsh names, may I add Cariad. It makes me cringe. Also dislike Huw used by people who pronounce it Hugh or Hoo. Or Hywel (love the name) said as Hugh-ul.

thatstoast · 12/06/2017 21:58

As a valleys person who speaks welsh as a second language, although i know it's Rhi-anne I think Rhi-un is fine in south wales. Most people wouldn't blink, and nobody would throw up

It is quite dated though.

MrSlant · 12/06/2017 21:51

I only know the one but she is a Rhi-an as well. Strongly Welsh speak ing area in the south west.

I only wanted to post because I need to shout "STOP pronounciyng Dylan Dillon, you are all just SO wrong and I will kill people soon if this continues". It's Du(h)-lan. The h is almost not there but kind of exists in thought as you say it. When I am king this will be the ONLY acceptable pronunciation.

Thank you for your time. Diolch pawb.

MikeUniformMike · 12/06/2017 21:43

Don't be confused. I know several Rhians. I'm a welsh speaker. All the Rhians I know apart from one are fluent Welsh speakers. They all pronounce it RHEE-an. The a is like the a in cat. Welsh is phonetic. Stress always on last but one syllable.

Buddug is pronounced Bith-ig (th as in englsh the or that). I know two so it's not hugely popular but it is very nice. It means Victory and is a form of Boudicca/Boadicea.

Onceafortnight · 12/06/2017 20:41

Well I'm really confused. One Welsh speaker is saying they know loads of Rhi-uns and the other Welsh speaker is saying they know ten Rhi-anns.

snidgetowl · 12/06/2017 20:34

Mike has the correct pronunciation - RHEE-anne. I'm a fluent Welsh speaker and know at least 15 Rhians, not one of them pronounces their name as "Rhi-un".

Gwenhwyfar · 12/06/2017 20:19

"best you go for Buddug instead."

Oh dear, I've just imagined an Anglicised Buddug in my head - budd-ugg?

FizzyGreenWater · 12/06/2017 19:33

It's Rhi-an, with emphasis on the Rhi and the an still quite short.

But clearly this is going to be a problem, so best you go for Buddug instead.

MikeUniformMike · 12/06/2017 17:54

Dylan is pronounced DULL-an (with the 'an' as in can).

Of course they can pronounce their names however they choose but it sounds wrong to us. Imagine if someone pronounced Giselle as Gizzle or Freja as Fredger. That wrong.

The names also sound very dated. Names like Rhian, Nia, Sian, Carys, Dylan and Bethan were hugely popular in the Welsh-speaking community in the 60s and 70s. Anwen and Gwyneth popular around 1950.
And don't get me started on names like Seren and Enfys.

Gwenhwyfar · 11/06/2017 23:09

Dylan is a Welsh name so the correct pronunciation is the Welsh one i.e. like the word dull and the name Anne with the emphasis on the dull.

I suppose you could argue that the Dillun version has now become a name in its own right like you have Charlotte in French and Chahlutt in English. Dylan Thomas used the Anglicised pronunciation.

Blondielongie · 11/06/2017 22:21

Gwen - what is the correct pronounciation of Dylan? I always thought the dyl, was pronounced 'Dil' But one of my friends says Dullan. It grates on me a bit - whose right? Am I wrong?

IntheBenefitTrap · 10/06/2017 20:14

Why would it make me want to throw up? How very bizarre. It's their names and that's how they pronounce them Shock

SW Wales here too. Very Welsh area.

Gwenhwyfar · 10/06/2017 20:14

Cotton - it's the Rhi-un pronunciation that makes me want to throw up. Can't help the way I feel.

OvariesBeforeBrovaries · 10/06/2017 19:51

I grew up in North Wales, very Welsh-speaking, where it was definitely pronounced the way Mike describes.

Recently moved to SW Wales where I've met a Rhi-un.

CottonSock · 10/06/2017 19:49

I know it as Rhi-anne.
Never made me want to throw up, Sorry but thats a silly thing to say

mamapants · 10/06/2017 19:48

mike's pronunciation is correct.

Gwenhwyfar · 10/06/2017 19:46

"I think the English can be very lazy with name endings.
Lots of names seem to end in "un"

It's not laziness if it's an English name and it's supposed to end with an 'un' sound. I think plenty of English speakers would pronounce a real ah sound at the end of Anna though.

Gwenhwyfar · 10/06/2017 19:44

"I'm in Wales and speak Welsh and know over 10 Rhians, all pronounced Rhi-un."

Really? And as a Welsh speaker, you also pronounce it like that without throwing up? It just sounds very ugly to Welsh-speaking ears.
Of course, names change and become anglicised. You could argue that Dylan pronounced Dillon is the right pronunciation now though it still sounds bad to Welsh speakers.

IntheBenefitTrap · 10/06/2017 19:39

I'm in Wales and speak Welsh and know over 10 Rhians, all pronounced Rhi-un.

ItsAYesFromMe · 10/06/2017 19:27

It's my name and I'm English and have always said it as 'Rhiun' not 'Rhi-Ann'

Dixiestamp · 10/06/2017 19:23

I know plenty of Rhians who pronounce their names like that (Rhi-un), but also some Rhi-ann pronunciations too.

SoyUnPerdedor2 · 10/06/2017 16:14

I think the English can be very lazy with name endings.
Lots of names seem to end in "un"
Karen
Dylan (dill-un)
Alan (al-un)
Caden (cade-un)
Cameron(cam-run)
Even those without an n..

Rachel (ray-chull)
Daryl (da-rull)
Carol (ca-rull)
Eden (ee-dun)
Graham (grey-um)
Michael (my-cull)
Steven (steve-un)
Lilian (lily-un)
Adam (a-dum)
Keira (keer-uh )
Anna (ann-uh)

llangennith · 10/06/2017 15:14

Should have added, emphasis on first syllable.

Gwenhwyfar · 10/06/2017 14:54

"Please think twice before giving your child a name you can't pronounce."

This. Can you pronounce Rh?

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