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Unusual nn for Elisabeth?

89 replies

BarbaraManatee · 03/06/2017 01:08

We quite like the name Elisabeth but can't agree on a nickname for it. Our surname begins with a B so that rules out several of them. We're not keen on overly cute/girly names. Plus I'm related to a Liz, an Eliza & a Lily...

Would it be too "out there" to call her Elis? It's a Welsh which I am spelling of Ellis & traditionally masculine but there was a female Brazilian singer called Elis Regina so I feel it's not completely without precedent...

It can also be traced back to being Biblical, which is one of the reasons we're looking at Elisabeth/Elizabeth in the first place. According to various baby name websites, Ellis is an anglicised form of Elias which is a Greek form of Elijah.

Plus, her middle name would most likely be Alice, so it would sound like an amalgamation of her first & middle names.

And, I like that it would sound similar to Emily Brontë's pseudonym with our surname, but probably not similar enough for anyone else to notice!

The only negative I can think of is people saying "but that's a boy's name". We got that occasionally after one of our DSs' was born & his name was most definitely masculine in the Bible but does sometimes get used for girls. The contrary side of me actually rather likes the idea of confusing people the other way round too... Blush

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7to25 · 03/06/2017 13:01

Cissie

FizzyGreenWater · 03/06/2017 12:55

You don't get a choice on the nickname really!

Yes you could call her that from the off and it might stick and it might not, and then when she gets to 12 she might decide she's a LIZ and that's that. So be careful of giving a name where you don't like the most common short forms.

Elis doesn't really work very well from Elisabeth - the intonation is different, but it's not a terrible option.

Can't help thinking that if you're pondering now about how to work in a short form that isn't obvious, it might be better picking another name?

Yika · 03/06/2017 12:34

Elis is lovely. It's true it doesn't sound like the beginning of elisabeth but it sounds pretty in its own right.

I also like Lise, Lisa, Lisbeth.

I think I like Elis the best. What about Elisa?

Crumbelina · 03/06/2017 12:03

I absolutely love Betty and the B surname wouldn't put me off. I love alliterative names as they're so strong.

Exercisejunkieforlife · 03/06/2017 11:58

I also think that nick names just happen whereas you may be able to control 'shortenings'.

Our DD2 has a nickname and it is completely unrelated to her name .
DS and DD1 do not and their names are shortened by friends but I use their full names.

My nephew has a really strange nickname of 'mars bar' Grin, (just outed self).

Lizzy
Libby
Lisbeth
Elis
Beth

There are so many options and it is a lovely name .

Mistoffelees · 03/06/2017 11:45

You could go quite old-fashioned and nickname her Queenie

Ditsy1980 · 03/06/2017 11:41

I don't get this. If you like Elis call her Elis.
I understand working through possible nicknames and shortenings incase there are any awful ones. Or giving a full name but use the derivative when small - as PP said Benjy is cute for a child but an adult would probably prefer Ben so Benjamin covers all options.

Ontopofthesunset · 03/06/2017 11:31

People on MN confuse nicknames, which do happen organically and are often limited to particular groups (Wiggles to the family, Trousers to your mates) and chosen shortenings. It's very common for people to choose to use Sam on a daily basis to refer to Samuel, though their own infant nickname for him might be Sam-Sam and at school later he might get called Samwich.

I do think the trend on here to find obscure shortenings or variants of common names slightly odd, though. If you're thinking of using Elisabeth, I'd assume you like it and at least one of its many short forms - Liz, Liza, Eliza, Elsie, Betty, Beth, Lizzie. Elis is strange because it's neither a historical nor a natural shortening of Elisabeth - the stress is all wrong and the pronunciation of the 's' is wrong. If you like Ellis, why not call her that (though I think it's a boys' name)?

Lemondrop99 · 03/06/2017 10:36

Elsie?

Sugarpiehoneyeye · 03/06/2017 10:14

I know an Elizabeth called Zibby.

PicaPau · 03/06/2017 10:14

Elis Regina's is pronounced like air-lease with emphasis on the E, not like the surname Ellis.

SuperBeagle · 03/06/2017 10:02

She'll get Liz/Lizzy regardless of what nicknames you try to make stick. It's the go-to, like Maddie for Madeleine and Lily for Lillian.

And I say that as an Elizabeth.

villainousbroodmare · 03/06/2017 09:59

That's another thing that I've observed on this forum. I would have thought of Liz, for example, as a shortening of Elizabeth, and something like, I dunno, Tweet as a nickname. But on MN the two seem to be equated.

NataliaOsipova · 03/06/2017 08:54

Sisi? Libby? Bet/Betty/Betsy/Bess/Beth?

stickygotstuck · 03/06/2017 08:48

Elspeth

Redsippycup · 03/06/2017 08:35

We chose our daughter's name with consideration to all of the possible nicknames (that we could think of!) to make sure that there weren't any truly awful ones that she could get teased about.

We currently call her something completely unrelated to her name.

I can almost guarantee that if you choose Elisabeth in order to shorten it to Elis, you will never ever call her Elis. Sorry.

barrygetamoveonplease · 03/06/2017 08:31

Call her Lilibet, like the Queen.

ChristianGreysAnatomy · 03/06/2017 08:31

A relative of mine was called Zabbie as a nn for Elizabeth.

HerSymphonyAndSong · 03/06/2017 08:28

Aren't you talking about the difference between a nickname and shortening though?

It is very common for people to announce they have named their child Benjamin which they are shortening to Ben. Less common to announce "his nickname is Benjie"

Sophronia · 03/06/2017 08:26

I know an Elizabeth who goes by Eliz, so I think Elis is fine short for Elisabeth.

Others I know go by Buffy, Lissie/Lissa and Liesl.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 03/06/2017 08:20

I find this pre-nicknaming so odd. Is it a British thing?
It's a MN thing and I agree,it's really odd. This is not what a nick name is.

dementedpixie · 03/06/2017 08:15

I think it's bizarre that people choose nicknames before a child is even born! My sister is Elizabeth and that's what I call her. A friend of hers calls her Liz but that isn't who she is to me. My mum is also Elizabeth but gets called Elsie.

RuthB4 · 03/06/2017 08:15

People are so damn rude on this forum! I really don't know why people are so against the fact that some people like to think about nicknames as part of the naming process! I can see why you'd think about it as Elisabeth is a long name. If you think you'd like to call her Elis then go for it! But be prepared for other nns to emerge and possibly become used more often.

mathanxiety · 03/06/2017 08:07

Bitta. The girls in question both have Polish/German/Czech ancestry (2 out of 3 in each case).

villainousbroodmare · 03/06/2017 07:57

Extraordinary thought process!
I don't know whether it's more controlling, more pedantic or more unimaginative to assume you will be able to dictate the shortening that other people will use for your daughter. Nicknames arrive organically, stemming from appearances, coincidences, events that you cannot predict. She might be Toosh or Curly or Sydney or anything, or have five nicknames.
I find this pre-nicknaming so odd. Is it a British thing?