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Unusual nn for Elisabeth?

89 replies

BarbaraManatee · 03/06/2017 01:08

We quite like the name Elisabeth but can't agree on a nickname for it. Our surname begins with a B so that rules out several of them. We're not keen on overly cute/girly names. Plus I'm related to a Liz, an Eliza & a Lily...

Would it be too "out there" to call her Elis? It's a Welsh which I am spelling of Ellis & traditionally masculine but there was a female Brazilian singer called Elis Regina so I feel it's not completely without precedent...

It can also be traced back to being Biblical, which is one of the reasons we're looking at Elisabeth/Elizabeth in the first place. According to various baby name websites, Ellis is an anglicised form of Elias which is a Greek form of Elijah.

Plus, her middle name would most likely be Alice, so it would sound like an amalgamation of her first & middle names.

And, I like that it would sound similar to Emily Brontë's pseudonym with our surname, but probably not similar enough for anyone else to notice!

The only negative I can think of is people saying "but that's a boy's name". We got that occasionally after one of our DSs' was born & his name was most definitely masculine in the Bible but does sometimes get used for girls. The contrary side of me actually rather likes the idea of confusing people the other way round too... Blush

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newbian · 04/06/2017 06:40

I know two Elisabeths who go by Lisa.

I love Elis Regina but her first name was simply Elis which is the Brazilian Portuguese for the name "Elise" and is pronounced the same. So why not just name her Elis/Elise?

nooka · 04/06/2017 06:35

Elisabeth has such an array of potential diminutives it seems odd to plan to use a shortening that isn't traditionally used.

How are you likely to pronounce Elis OP? To me it just brings to mind the boys name Ellis, which doesn't sound like the beginning of Elisabeth at all. Not sure that a use by a Brazilian singer is really a useful precedent. I doubt that anyone not into jazz or Brazilian music has heard of her.

Maggie2828 · 04/06/2017 02:54

Sound like you've really thought about it and really like Elis. I also like the suggestion of Elsa, posted earlier. Elisabeth is a gorgeous name, too. Some very heated posts on here. Who'd have thought the subject of nicknames could raise such strong feelings rudeness!

WinnieTheW0rm · 03/06/2017 20:39

But Ellis is a boy's name!

Always has been, and even though there is the odd girl given a boy's name, ONS shows it still mainly boy.

Beebeeeight · 03/06/2017 19:31

Just name her Ellis!

historyismything · 03/06/2017 19:31

Lissie?

junebirthdaygirl · 03/06/2017 19:27

The Irish for Elizabeth is Eilis pronounced.. eyeleesh???

Tinseleverywhere · 03/06/2017 19:27

I do know of someone whose degree qualification was given in her shortened version name which she was always known by and when it did not match her passport she had a lot of trouble getting her visa to work abroad. But that is looking ahead a bit!

Tinseleverywhere · 03/06/2017 19:22

I think a short version of a longer formal name is a traditional thing to do there's lots names that have a traditional short version and some people might call it a nick name as they are not simply a short part of the name. Examples are Peggy being short for Margaret or Billy short for William. Anyway this way of naming children has been going on for many years.

OP Elizabeth was a popular name in my family and one of the little girls was known as Lisbet.

Stickerrocks · 03/06/2017 19:03

If you aren't going to bother calling her Elizabeth, don't give her the formal name in the first place. We gave our daughter a formal name ( say Charlotte), everyone always used a shortened version (say Lottie) in real life, but she's ended up with a nickname at home (say Fred). I know wish we hadn't bothered with her formal name as it has never been used except on paperwork. We now fret over every overseas trip etc that she goes on in case the school book tickets in the wrong name.

Genuine nicknames are just that, nicknames. They can't be pre-determined until your child has a personality of their own. If you like a shortened name, put that on the birth certificate in the first place as it will save so much bother in the long run.

Yika · 03/06/2017 17:43

I also know an Els and a Bis who are both Elizabeth

barrygetamoveonplease · 03/06/2017 17:43

A spectacularly silly suggestion, which shows that some people on this forum really don't seem to understand what a nickname is
No sillier than wanting to give your child a nickname, as if it's a 'thing'. It isn't. A nickname is a corruption of the proper names chosen by reasonable people for their beloved children. A 'nn' in the MN sense is just pathetic.

lobsterface · 03/06/2017 17:37

I like Bess (like in Madame secretary) but you could go for Tizz, Tizzy or something. I also like Lizzy though.

boolifooli · 03/06/2017 14:38

Sabby or Libby?

Mollie85 · 03/06/2017 14:35

I know a 20 year old Ellis (girl) who is a cool, arty surfer girl. Smile

I like it, but then, Alice is also one of my favourite names so I may just like the sound.

PitilessYank · 03/06/2017 14:22

In my family we have used Bess as a nickname for Elizabeth.

And if your surname starts with a "B", that might be some nice alliteration, there.

DaemonPantalaemon · 03/06/2017 14:15

Call her Lilibet, like the Queen

A spectacularly silly suggestion, which shows that some people on this forum really don't seem to understand what a nickname is! As someone above said, a nickname is not always the short form of a name. The Queen is called Lilibet because, as a child, she could not pronounce her own name: Elizabeth came out Lilibet when she referred to herself, and it stuck as a nickname. Lilibet is a nickname that developed organically, it was not a pre-selected name that was chosen because it was a short form of Elizabeth.

LordBeefCurtain · 03/06/2017 14:14

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AConvivialHost · 03/06/2017 14:13

We have an Elizabeth, and haven't found a nn that suits her yet - she's currently 6 months. Have tried Buffy, Beth, Libby - can't call her Liz/Lizzie as that's the dog's name 😁 The one that we seem to use most is Elz/Elzie. I suspect once she starts nursery/school, either she or her friends will pick the nn

millifiori · 03/06/2017 14:03

Elis is lovely - elegant and a bit unusual.

kittytom · 03/06/2017 14:01

There is nothing wrong or odd with wondering which short name (which is clearly what the OP means) to call an Elisabeth!

OP Elis is fine, but it might get shortened to Liz!

Qtipsrsweet · 03/06/2017 13:52

Elis is lovely. I love it
I want to rename my DD now 🤣🤣

PlymouthMaid1 · 03/06/2017 13:48

I really don't get this think for deciding nicknames as they just develop on their own. Obviously don't pick first names which will attract an obviously awful nickname but what is wrong with waiting for one to come on its own?

AuntieStella · 03/06/2017 13:45

Because people tend to like the name variant their parents call them, and it often sticks. And it's perfectly normal to think about what you'll want to call them day to day as well as their full label.

So if you like a name that has many shortening, you choose the nn you will use. Most people will follow the parents lead.

If the DC prefers another, they'll sort it out themselves with their friends when they are school age.

How about Buffy?

rocketman3 · 03/06/2017 13:39

How can a nickname be pre determined Confused