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What causes name fashions?

68 replies

Rainatnight · 08/04/2017 04:41

I'm really interested to know how name fashions and trends take hold. It seems to me that it can't be as simple as calling your kid something because everyone else is. It seems more that there's something in the ether.

I was really struck by this in the playground the other day. We've just named our first DD. For context, I've become a mum much later than my friends, don't know anyone with babies at the moment, so haven't at all mixing with babies, toddlers or anyone naming children. So we didn't directly get the idea for the name from somewhere else. Nor is it particularly in the media or anything.

But in the playground there were two other little girls with her name! A few years older, but still.

So what causes it?

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MitzyLeFrouf · 12/04/2017 14:10

I think posh names definitely filer down. Names like Henry and Hugo used to be the reserve of the toffs whereas now they're mainstream.

reuset · 12/04/2017 14:06

Agree though that the only sensible course is to choose something you like. It is so difficult to predict

reuset · 12/04/2017 14:04

I'm noticing more babies/young children named Ivy and Pearl, too, Talcott!

This could be utter bollocks (in fact I'm pretty sure I read it on here!) but names can be seen to fall down the 'social classes' as it were (can't think of a better way to put it). So a name that was used as the reserve of the upper middle class/upper classes 15 years ago (e.g. Monty, Oscar

Filtering! You're not quoting Freakonomics are you? Their theory and prediction examples were largely debunked.
Monty still isn't very popular, nowhere near top 100.

paranoidmother · 12/04/2017 13:51

My DD is named for my dad who died but as his name was too male we called her the old Welsh version of his hobby of collecting Owls. Turns out the same name is used when shortened from other countries. It is however the only one in both schools that's she's been in. DS has a name after my grandad and is so traditionally Welsh there again is no others at school.
At the school I work in people like names ending in "a" Zola, xola, Lola etc" and double barrelled names.

DrinkMilkAndKickAss · 12/04/2017 13:23

This could be utter bollocks (in fact I'm pretty sure I read it on here!) but names can be seen to fall down the 'social classes' as it were (can't think of a better way to put it). So a name that was used as the reserve of the upper middle class/upper classes 15 years ago (e.g. Monty, Oscar, Florence) filter down to mass use. And following that the upper class stop using them and move onto something else. I can see some logic in this - my DC were born in the 90s and some posh friends of mine called their DC Arthur and Florence because they were so unusual. So I guess to see where the next big trend is coming from you just need to spend time perusing the Telegraph birth announcements!

TheLuminaries · 12/04/2017 12:38

I love unusual names that are beautiful and that are not 'dated' to ANY era.

All names date, some may come back into fashion, as it is cyclical, but there is no such thing as a name that does not date. For example, James is a classic name, always popular in Scotland, so as unlikely to date as any name you can imagine. However, there has been a massive upswing in its use, alongside 'Jamie' as 'classic' names have become trendy. I predict James will start to go into a decline, but never completely disappear.

I think you might as well choose a name you like and forget about it being popular as it is so hard to predict. If you aim to be the only one with a certain name, you are likely to be disappointed as loads of parents will have thought the same - it is the zeitgeist.

Changingagain · 12/04/2017 12:37

I read a book a few years ago and liked a characters name. I could think of a couple of historical figures and one current sports "star" with it and so thought it was traditional but unusual and chose it for DS. He's now 18 months and one of 3 with that name in the baby wing at nursery. There's only around 12 boys in the wing!

Talcott2007 · 12/04/2017 12:30

DD has just started at Nursery yesterday and there are 3 Ivy's and 2 Pearl's in the baby room which I was quite suprised about!

Phantommagic · 12/04/2017 12:30

Was thinking about this the other day and wondering how many girl names genuinely don't date the wearer. I came up with about two!

LokisSister · 12/04/2017 12:30

I had a friend called January who was born in October. Only just figured out it was probably when she was conceived.

MitzyLeFrouf · 12/04/2017 12:24

But a November born May might be named after a relative.

MsGemJay · 12/04/2017 12:23

Kinda not relevant but I have a HUGE pet hate of parents that give a child a name like "Summer" or "May" but the child was born in November 🤣

MervynMouse · 12/04/2017 12:19

I read somewhere that the greatest gift you can give a child these days is an un Google- able name. Something along the lines of Jane Smith offers blessed anonymity.

emmyrose2000 · 12/04/2017 10:17

It amuses me that people who are so desperate for their child to be the only one at school with their name strive to find something unusual. When in fact calling your child "Sharon" or "Claire" or "Ian" would have exactly the desired effect

This was the case at my kids' primary school. At one stage we had five girls across the seven year levels called Tymeeka/Tamika/Tymmeekka - three different spellings but all pronounced the same. So much for being one of a kind.

There was one Ian in the entire school, so he was a novelty.

grufallosfriend · 12/04/2017 09:54

Ian and Claire may be unusual for children these days, but they are dull names that are overused in my generation.

I love unusual names that are beautiful and that are not 'dated' to ANY era.

Pencilvester · 12/04/2017 09:44

There's always at least one bright spark on these threads coming out with exactly the same comment about Ian/Claire.

MrsMeeseeks · 12/04/2017 09:40

It amuses me that people who are so desperate for their child to be the only one at school with their name strive to find something unusual. When in fact calling your child "Sharon" or "Claire" or "Ian" would have exactly the desired effect.

Are you really not able to recognise the difference between choosing an unusual name just for the sake of it and choosing a name that you love which is unusual?

heron98 · 12/04/2017 09:37

It amuses me that people who are so desperate for their child to be the only one at school with their name strive to find something unusual. When in fact calling your child "Sharon" or "Claire" or "Ian" would have exactly the desired effect.

Rainatnight · 12/04/2017 09:13

It's really interesting. April that's fascinating about women. It's so obvious when you think about it, but it had never struck me before.

I totally get the cyclical thing, but it still seems weird that, in looking at another generation, people still light on the same names. It's like it's in the ether.

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MrsMeeseeks · 11/04/2017 14:24

A lot of it has to do with news and celebrities, I think. The year Maya Angelou died, three of my friends named their babies Maya. Footballers tend to go for slightly wacky names which seem to be quickly assimilated into general use. .

Veterinari · 11/04/2017 07:48

Totally unnecessary, rude and unpleasant Backfromthedead

LovelyBranches · 10/04/2017 23:42

One reason for the trend for old names is the death of a loved one, usually a grandparent. The name is. celebrated, often as a middle name and then the name grows in popularity and a newer group of people chose those names as a first name.

BackFromTheDead · 10/04/2017 22:50

Jude's an ugly name innit

squoosh · 09/04/2017 18:05

I'm going to guess that the Beatles name is Jude.

CaliforniaHorcrux · 09/04/2017 15:38

MrsC I'm wondering if you mean Lennon, that's my eldest son's name and he was born thirteen years before your son was. There were over 1500 children named Lennon born within two years either side of mine and no doubt many more since. You said you're disappointed it had become popular but you were many years behind the trend I guess and I think it had a spike in popularity because that's what Liam Gallagher and Patsy Kensit called their son, who was born the year before mine, so it was probably kind of seized on by Oasis fans like me

Obviously if you're not referring to that name then fair enough