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Names and (mis)behaviour

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mumoseven · 17/02/2017 17:10

In my experience I have found certain names reoccur when it comes to negative behaviour in school, especially with boys. Not sure I should blunder in and upset new mums, so I'll settle for outing the common names for naughty lads back in my day. Stephens were usually the worst, but Davids came close.

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Chelazla · 18/02/2017 12:24

I've never taught a jack that wasn't a bit naughty!! However I've also never taught a jack that's wasn't really quite funny and that I didn't like!!!Wink

Chocolatecake12 · 18/02/2017 12:00

Any naughty girls names or is this a bash the naughty boys thread?
Why just boys names?

emilybrontescorset · 18/02/2017 11:55

Well after being on old, I can categorically say that every other man born in the 60s and 70s was called Steven/Stephen 😀😀😀

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Emeraude · 17/02/2017 22:53

I taught a Jayden who could read in Nursery, and looked like a teddy bear to boot, and when I taught him again later, he was still a clever, caring, resilient delight.

mumoseven · 17/02/2017 22:23

Johns were usually nice quiet boys

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Composteleana · 17/02/2017 22:17

I've found J name boys have been 'naughtier' if you want to call in that, Of those I've taught but as others have said, don't think it's a causation thing where a certain name means a child will be more challenging. There is also one not massively common (not beginning with J) name shared by 2 of my most challenging ever pupils, and variations of that name have all also been more difficult. So yes, I'd be put off using those names but just because of my own associations, not because I think that giving that name would mean my child would be more likely to be naughty.

Also, my favourite boys name I'd have loved to use if I had a son, never taught one who wasn't a little so and so, which means I'd be unlikely to choose the name now, but I'm sure there are many many well behaved delightful children with this name (William), in fact outside of teaching I know two such boys.

reuset · 17/02/2017 22:06

But you didn't mention children with acrylic nails, you cited children with special educational needs and disabilities (SEN). That's not what the OP asked for to be fair. Doesn't sit well with me, but if you think it's irrelevant...

elephantoverthehill · 17/02/2017 22:00

Reuset as I said 'completely irrelevant'. I could also cite that at least 2 girls named 'Grace' have worn acrylic nails this week and that 'Jasmine's are particularly good at practical skills this year.

reuset · 17/02/2017 21:56

Ryan's been consistently in the top 100 for over 20 years (top 10/50 for some of that time).

reuset · 17/02/2017 21:53

Stephen was top 10 in the 50s/60s. Steven not far behind. Super popular! David similarly popular, more so even.

mumoseven · 17/02/2017 21:53

My daughter's partner is a Ryan and he owns up to having been naughty at school.

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elephantoverthehill · 17/02/2017 21:51

I think, but I am not entirely sure that I am correct, that more names begin with J than any other consonants.

reuset · 17/02/2017 21:49

The thing is there were shedloads of Steves and Daves back in the day so statistically speaking they are going to be more represented among the naughty children. Because there are more of them overall.

Asheth's quote sums it up quite nicely.

Elephants, really not sure about listing children's names with SEN.

mumoseven · 17/02/2017 21:49

Not trying to be goady! I have noticed that certain names at work tend to be attached to challenging children but didn't want to out them
True that we did have lots of Stevens in my school (in the late 60s)!

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Notrevealingmyidentity · 17/02/2017 21:46

Is the J name Jayden by any chance ?

It's funny how people you know influence this as well or even just weird associations - I personally hate the name Louise as I associate it with snot. Hmm I have no idea why. I've only known one Louise and she wasn't particularly snotty.

Notrevealingmyidentity · 17/02/2017 21:42

I'm pretty sure it's to do with how common or popular a certain name is.
E.g. Names that relate to say a certain TV show might be popular in some places but not others therefore people might see those names associated with particular characteristics.

LexieLulu · 17/02/2017 21:41

My brother is called Ryan, he was a naughty kid if that's anything.

I love the name Ryan and Josh tho, but I love little mischievous cheeky little boys, maybe that's why I like them!

I agree with the comment on name popularity tho

Puffinsareblackandwhite · 17/02/2017 21:37

I find this quite interesting, not goady at all. Interesting to see how representative my experiences as a secondary teacher are. YY to names with J being difficult - we had a week last term where all internally excluded pupils had names beginning with J. Josh is a lovely name but I do tend to associate it with trouble... IME Ryans are also difficult, but the Shannon I teach is a delight!

elephantoverthehill · 17/02/2017 21:27

Not a boy's name but I never taught a delightful student named 'Shannon'. Currently 'Jacob's have SEN. I teach in one school the UK, and only teach a small percentage of the students. Therefore my 'data' is completely irrelevant.

minisoksmakehardwork · 17/02/2017 21:22

It's just down to how common a name is surely?

And if we start expecting these children to be troublemakers then the chances are they will live up to some, if not all, of the prophecy they have been tarred with. Eg you know a james who is a royal pain so you either expect that behaviour or you are more on top of that child to prevent it. Subsequent james' are then a reminder of that one, so you're unfairly more harsh on then as you're expecting poor behaviour. And possibly they then react to the unfairness by playing up to the character you assume them to be.

reuset · 17/02/2017 21:22

Ex teacher here and no 'naughty' names. Get away with your goady thread, OP.

One of my teacher friends doesn't like J names as she's taught a lot of naughty J boys

How silly of her.

Yes, that sounds about right, Thelivingasheth!

LexieLulu · 17/02/2017 21:15

OnHold - she just didn't name her child a J name.

I have nothing against J names so please don't be blunt, I have J names in my family xx

OnHold · 17/02/2017 21:14

Your teacher friend needs to find a new job then.

WindwardCircle · 17/02/2017 21:12

Aren't approximately 50% of men between 35-60 called Steven or David?