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White-Knight/Knight-White... We can't, can we?

90 replies

duvetttpol · 02/02/2017 17:12

DP's and I's first baby together. WWYD WRT the surname?

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MouseClogs · 10/02/2017 19:40

I feel oddly compelled to repeat myself here as I fear a lot of you folks are evidently a bit out of the loop on this one. Apologies in advance for caps lock.

WHITE KNIGHT IS A TERM OF ABUSE NOWADAYS

I agree that phonetically it sounds rather nice, so it is a shame, but seriously - it's a term of abuse used and understood widely (particularly online) and in all likelihood kids now will recognise it as such. It would be unkind to bestow it upon a child unless you felt you had no other option.

Choccyhobnob · 08/02/2017 14:53

I think Whiteknight is the way to go here

reuset · 08/02/2017 14:24

Fairer to say that all surnames have specific meanings, minip. Nothing derogatory or silly in that list.

reuset · 08/02/2017 14:20

Fair enough.
If you read half of Fellowship of the Ring you should have come across the wights. They're in the Tom Bombadil part early on.

I'm not Tolkien fan, particularly, just read them.

KlingybunFistelvase · 08/02/2017 13:12

Really? Have you not even read that great classic Lord of the Rings?

No - I started the first two but I stopped reading about halfway through each one. I managed to plough through the Hobbit when I was little, but didn't enjoy it. I loved CS Lewis, especially Narnia when I was little, which led me to Tolkien, but I just couldn't get into the Hobbit and can't get into LOTR. Too much detail for me I think, though I know that's what is supposed to make Tolkien special. I just found it a bit boring and droney. Sorry Tolkien fans!

minipie · 08/02/2017 13:09

But there are loads of surnames with specific meanings. Absolutely loads.

Baker
Butcher
Smith
Farmer
Carter
Fields
Meadows
Banks
Rivers
Race
Waters
Woods
Black
etc

Bubbinsmakesthree · 08/02/2017 12:48

Ooh no I wouldn't - "white knight" has a specific meaning and (although I don't think it is a particularly negative meaning) I wouldn't want my DC to have to live with it.

My DC have DH's surname, couldn't care less, in fact I quite like having my independent name!

PostTruthEra · 08/02/2017 12:48

Ooh, I like mini pies suggestion of Whiteknight, no hyphen. Smile

PostTruthEra · 08/02/2017 12:44

I actually love White-Knight! But then my teenage boyfriend was a Darling which I always thought was an awesome surname (I kept my own name when marrying DH though, as I preferred my name to his).

Wight is a good amalgamation though.

minipie · 08/02/2017 12:42

Do it!

I wouldn't double barrel though. I'd put them together as one name, so Whiteknight rather than White-Knight.

That way it's more like those other surnames which are two words - like Greengrass, Whitehead, Fairbrother, Winterbottom, Cartwright etc. Perfectly normal. Yours is just cooler Grin

NassauBeach · 08/02/2017 12:40

I love it! Think it's cool! Go for it.

Dakota1 · 08/02/2017 12:35

That is just too much, use something else.

SoupDragon · 08/02/2017 12:30

If I wanted both, I would probably put one as an extra middle name rather than double barrelling them.

Knight-White sounds worse than White-Knight to me so I wouldn't go for that order either with a hyphen or without.

MiriAmmerman · 08/02/2017 12:23

No, sorry - too funny (and a bit of a tongue twister) Grin
I understand how you feel (DP and I are currently TTC; we are married, but both kept our own names, and we will put a double-barrel on any future DC). So I understand why you want both names, but I don't think they 'go' that well. Alternatives that people I know or know of have done:

  • Created a mash-up;
  • Picked a new surname (favourite place? Name of first road you lived on together? Name of pub you met in? Lovely name from further back in the family tree?) and both taken it, then given it to the child;
  • Given the kids different surnames. One couple I know has 3 daughters: DD1 has mum's surname; DD2 has dad's; DD3 has mum's; and there was no DC4 but they would have carried on alternating.

Not sure if any of those ideas wirk for you - they wouldn't be for everyone - but I don't believe you have to give up your name if it means a lot to you.

Or, alternatively, White-Knight could probably be styled out quite well Smile

FatOldBag · 08/02/2017 12:01

No I wouldn't. I'd give the baby the mum's surname.

Ilovecaindingle · 08/02/2017 11:48

I changed my surname to dh first name. . Ds has that as his surname double barrelled with dh surname. So ds surname is dh full name!!

reuset · 08/02/2017 11:41

I know Wright-Pratts and Green-Grays. You can double barrel anything!

You can, but whether you should is quite another matter. Wright-Pratts! What were they thinking Grin

reuset · 08/02/2017 11:38

It's used as a term of abuse fairly widely, so I think best avoided. Shame, because it doesn't sound bad, but yeah..: an insult adored by misogynists the world over these days.

It is indeed.The budget tumble dryers and electrical appliances, as have been mentioned Grin also make it amusing.

The 'aww it sounds nice, White-Knight, hun' you cannot reason with, however Grin

reuset · 08/02/2017 11:35

I had to google the ghost connection to Wight

Really? Have you not even read that great classic Lord of the Rings? Barrow wights... They're ghosts/spirits/undead, especially more lately, as I think a previous poster touched upon.

ChilliMum · 08/02/2017 07:55

I love it what an awesome surname.

We have names that can't be double barrelled. I dont mind them having dhs name but I really regret not giving them my name as another middle name.

I would totally go for White Knight for the whole family it's very cool but no hyphen then if dc feels conspicuous as they get older they can just use knight but still have the full name.

Hippychickster · 08/02/2017 07:46

Awesome = see some

Hippychickster · 08/02/2017 07:45

I love White Knight!!!! I'm a teacher and awesome fab surnames - that is definitely one!

MaryPoppinsPenguins · 08/02/2017 07:44

And it's like anything, you / your child / everyone around you will say it enough and get used to it.

MaryPoppinsPenguins · 08/02/2017 07:43

I also think White Knight is a brilliant name! I would definitely go for it.

clarrylove · 08/02/2017 07:42

No, you can't. White Knight is a tumble drier!!