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Ronin not Ronan

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TallyHoAndToodlePip · 15/12/2016 14:33

If I said to you that my sons name was 'Ronin', would you think I'd actually said 'Ronan'? For clarity, it's pronounced 'roe-nin'.

DH and I like the name Ronin but he dislikes Ronan because he doesn't want people to think we named our boy after Ronan Keating. He's not a fan lol. I think he's being silly and that both are nice but DH isn't budging.

Would we end up with massive name regret because we'd have to keep saying "No, not Ronan, Ronin!" Confused

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1horatio · 16/12/2016 17:05

Ronaldo?

Like the footballer? Or just Ron?

birdybirdywoofwoof · 16/12/2016 17:03

I fear the DH might say, Ronald?? Ronald Reagan! Ronald Mcdonald!

Nataleejah · 16/12/2016 16:46

Ronald maybe? Ron, Ronnie -- can't get this one wrong

1horatio · 16/12/2016 12:30

Not sure if that is true, but:

A samurai became masterless from the ruin or fall of his master, or after the loss of his master's favor or privilege. Rōnin might be hired as yōjimbō (bodyguards or mercenary fighters) by villagers, merchants, or others in need of protection. In this way, many ronin were extended a respect equal to that of master-sponsored samurai by the general population; they were actually preferred by Zen masters, artists, and philosophers over the faceless samurai counterparts, who remained ultimately subservient to their Samauri masters.

Bound and dedicated men, most samurai resented the personal freedom that the wandering ronin enjoyed. Ronin were the epitome of self-determination; they were independent men who dictated their own path in life, answering only to themselves and making decisions as they saw fit.

So... why not Ronin?
If we have a boy the 2nd time round I'll suggest this... Well, I should probably start a new name list. Or else I might forget about it. ;)

rachyconks · 16/12/2016 12:24

I have a Rónán, never been asked if he was named after Ronan Keating tbh.

1horatio · 16/12/2016 12:21

Woofwoof😂😂

Saying no is imo easier than actually suggesting a name...

I like Charles, btw. And Imlove Charlie :)!

birdybirdywoofwoof · 16/12/2016 12:06

Even if we have to wait until the day baby makes his grand entrance we'll get there in the end. You never know, we might have one of those moments where we look at him and say "He looks like a Charlie!" (for example!) or something like that

That way danger lies! He'll come out and you'll go, he looks like a baby!!
Hmm, actually no one calls their baby, 'baby' lets call him baby! Grin

TallyHoAndToodlePip · 16/12/2016 12:04

1horatio, generally speaking, for every 10 names I give him he gives me 1 back.

All the names he's picked just haven't grabbed me. I don't want to cause offence to anyone who's named their kids the following but these are his suggestions: Reece, Bradley, Liam, Oscar, Darren... can't think of anymore off the top of my head.

It'll be ok. Even if we have to wait until the day baby makes his grand entrance we'll get there in the end. You never know, we might have one of those moments where we look at him and say "He looks like a Charlie!" (for example!) or something like that Grin

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1horatio · 16/12/2016 11:33

So, if DH is that good a shooting down names... is he also good at suggesting them?

What are his suggestions?

LyndaLaHughes · 16/12/2016 11:08

Ronan is very popular in Ireland so your DH going on about Ronan Keating is being ridiculous to be honest. Besides Ronan Keating's hey day is long gone and very few people will make the association or even care about it. If it's a name you love then put your foot down about it. It really is a lovely name.

TownMouseCuntMouse · 16/12/2016 11:02

Rohan?

Mouthfulofquiz · 16/12/2016 10:40

I met someone recently called Ronen, I think it's a nice variation.

Oysterbabe · 16/12/2016 10:39

I'd just think you'd made it up tbh.

TallyHoAndToodlePip · 16/12/2016 10:36

I've given him so many good names and he's shot them all down, mostly for very silly reasons! He's starting to really irk me!

I'm sure we'll get there eventually though Smile

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birdybirdywoofwoof · 16/12/2016 09:22

He's a picky sod, your DH! Smile

TallyHoAndToodlePip · 16/12/2016 09:14

Birdy I swear I wrote my comment about Rowan before I saw your latest comment. Cross post!

I did actually suggest Rowan to DH and he said no because of him being the actor who played Mr Bean. I thought he was being silly again but I can't say I love Rowan so wasn't upset about that one.

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birdybirdywoofwoof · 16/12/2016 09:11

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Rowan Atkinson of course! (That's a good association really).

TallyHoAndToodlePip · 16/12/2016 09:10

1horatio That made me laugh Grin

Thanks to the PP who suggested Roman instead but I'm not so keen on that because it doesn't go so well with our (very) masculine surname. When I put the two together it sounds a bit, dare I say, thuggish!

Funny how changing one letter at a time can make such a difference to how a name is perceived!

Roman = thug name (when coupled with my surname)
Ronan = forever associated by DH with a pop star he loathes
Ronin = disgraced Japanese warrior
Rowan = Mr Bean - 'nuff said!

Scratches this name off of list completely

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birdybirdywoofwoof · 16/12/2016 09:09

Rowan then?

Surely no negative connotations there!

Waits...

BingBongBam · 15/12/2016 23:57

Not roman, the only one I know is a nasty bully!

1horatio · 15/12/2016 23:54

I know somebody with a son called Ronin.

He (the father, not the son) is a martial artist that's very successful in his discipline.

So, I don't have a bad impression of the name 😅😳

PhilODox · 15/12/2016 21:48

Not 'Roman' - people think 'Polanski'

birdybirdywoofwoof · 15/12/2016 19:14

Ronan is a nice name - and the keating connection is v forgettable.

Roman? Unless he hates Chelsea (like my dh)!

harrietm87 · 15/12/2016 19:10

If it makes any difference I'd never heard of Ronin - the name or associations. My first instinct would be that you had misspelt Ronan (or were trying to be unique). I'd imagine he'd have to constantly say "it's Ron-IN with an "i".

TallyHoAndToodlePip · 15/12/2016 18:51

I know when I'm beat. Sulking and getting defensive wouldnt change the fact that the meaning of Ronin was fundamentally bad.

I'm sure we'll think of another, more acceptable name before he arrives. Just might take another 20 weeks of debate!

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