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In Scotland Wales and Ireland (UK bit)

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JazzAnnNonMouse · 10/09/2016 07:55

Is it more common to have a very scottish Welsh Irish name or a more English easily pronouncible one in a say a class of kids?
Does this depend on areas eg close to borders are more anglicised? Or just those with english connections (family possible moves etc)
There are so many names that are so beautiful that I'd never heard of before reading them on here but theyre almost never pronounced how I expected Grin

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GruffaloPants · 10/09/2016 09:00

Ireland is a completely independent country.

Northern Ireland is a separate country, part of the UK.

There is no such place as Southern Ireland.

Ireland suffered occupation and oppression. It upsets people to,have it regarded as part of the U.K. or called "Southern Ireland".

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JazzAnnNonMouse · 10/09/2016 08:22

I thought part of Ireland was part of the UK? Is it not?! Is it part of great britain and they're different? Confused

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JazzAnnNonMouse · 10/09/2016 08:19

Yes of course I know you speak English!

I'm asking whether it's more common to have a very Welsh Scottish Irish name ie one with spelling that requires previous knowledge of the name or language origin etc or whether they're becoming less popular over time whether there's a border change whether having English family influences etc as people move around more now etc.

I can never remember whether it's northern ireland or southern Ireland which comes under UK - Irish history is something I was never taught at school but I'm learning more and more about it recently (too young to remember any conflict). Ireland was always ireland to me... Confused I didn't even know it was split until I was an older teenager! Crazy really.

I was born in Scotland but my parents chose a non specific origin name because they were moving back down south.

I've never lived in Wales Scotland or Ireland at an age to remember so don't know what it's common to be called there whether the 'harder to pronounce' names are becoming more unpopular which would be a shame as there are so many beautiful names often with lovely folklaw surrounding them. It would be a shame for them to die out.

Also is there anywhere that could tell me the language rules ie in aisling the noise is a sh sound - is that across the board that that's what noise those letters make?

I'm really trying not to offend but it's interesting and I'm ignorantrying and I'd like not to be Smile

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wigglesrock · 10/09/2016 08:19

Ireland (UK bit) ? Really? - Dicky, ill thought out title.

Notso · 10/09/2016 08:16

I live in Wales though it's mostly English speaking in the area I live in. I find most of my Welsh speaking friends have called their child a name that works in English but spelled to fit in with the Welsh language. For example Anni, Harri, Elinor, Tomos.
Where as more of the children I know with Welsh names like Mabli, Deryn, Rhys etc are from English speaking families.
There are more children I know with 'regular' names James, Stanley, Poppy than anything else though.

wobblywonderwoman · 10/09/2016 08:11

Ireland is not the UK and that's quite offensive

BikeRunSki · 10/09/2016 08:10

OP, my brother teaches in a largely Welsh speaking part of Wales, and he says his classes are about 50/50 Welsh and English names, and a few from other nationalities in the class. His own children have English first names and Welsh middle names - with our Irish surname (although Irish connections are long gone).

SaoirseLikeInertia · 10/09/2016 08:08

Areas that border NI aren't known for being very anglicised, seeing as they are all in Ireland (the non UK bit)

Ginmakesitallok · 10/09/2016 08:01

You do know that we speak English in Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland?

longdiling · 10/09/2016 07:59

I'm not sure what you're asking really. Are you asking if it's more common to have Welsh names in Wales and Irish names in Ireland?!

CaitAgusMadra · 10/09/2016 07:56

Ireland (UK bit)???? Can we assume you are referring to Northern Ireland