opinions on our chosen name: Heavenly Joy

Not sure what there is left to contribute here but...

@Finding, I'm so sorry for your loss. In your case, Heavenly Angel is a perfect name because your little one will remain a tiny, sweet baby girl forever and stay true to her name.

For OP, though, I'm not sure the name Heavenly Joy will 'grow up' with a person to adulthood IYSWIM? I couldn't think of another way to put it, I hope you understand what I mean.

Sorry for your loss finding

I know someone called Heaven. I am always unsure if I like it. She is Phillipino if that's relevant

You don't need to be brutal to be honest.

I don't think my response was twatty

There's giving your opinion and then there's being a twat.

If you ask for Internet randoms opinions you will get their brutally honest opinions.

Op asked for an opinion on a name on a public forum.
If you don't want opinions then why ask for them?

Oh but its ok cos this is mumsnet and anyone can say whatever they want, after all they're only saying what everyone is thinking.

I think you lot have made your point.

And upset a poster whose stillborn child is called Heaveny.

Well fucking done.

For me it sounds very religious, which is fine if that's what you're going for but might be tricky if she's an atheist. I'd be worried that it would get shortened to 'Hev' as well and that just makes me think of that woman from Eastenders!

I personally don't like the sound of 'heavenly' - too close to 'heavy' and would no doubt get abbreviated to 'hevs'.

It does sound a bit like a spoof name, or a porn star name.

Is there any need for the racism and "stripper name" comments? Especially when someone has said it is the name of her stillborn baby you've still got people gleefully espousing how horrible a name it is.

Why don't you introduce yourself to new people as "Heavenly" and see how it works out, neonrainbow.

I grew up with a ridiculous name. It was shit.

There's some right narrow minded arseholes on this thread. I think heavenly is lovely op. Don't follow the sheep and give your baby some godawful common, white British middle-class name. Name her what you want and im so sorry for your loss flowers. Some people on here can be right twats if you think even a little bit out of the box.

A Stripper's name

Dunno, BikeRunSki. More importantly, did he have an interesting, culturally surprising name?

Wrong thread !

If you were a man, who was just beginning hospital investigations that might lead to say 18 months of treatment and recovery, would you take the job? Of course you would!

I LOVE the name Gretel

KoalaDownUnder - good point - choosing Cohen as s first name is daft as well as offensive. That said, it's a nice sounding name.

LaContessadiPlump, I know! Swap Arabic and Italian and that's me and DS who looks like he's not got any ancestors born south of Yorkshire.

Am not saying that everyone should pick names from their own culture (whatever that means), but that if you're choosing a name that is outside there's more due diligence to do. E.g. it's always quite funny to me seeing posh Brits go for names like Annunziata or Filomena when in an Italian context they scream peasant. Nothing wrong with the names per se, but there's no way in hell those same people would go for Keith or Tracy. And I do think there's an argument to be made that it's disrespectful to Southern Italians to name your child Annunziata without thinking at all about how it would play in Italy.

Sorry, this is a pet topic for me. It's fascinating. Why do girls' names travel better than boys'? Why have more and more Old Testament names become common currency among gentiles? Is it a sign of antisemitism ebbing? Why is Jesus tickety-boo as a name in Spain but seriously weird in Italy? Why are 'American' names so frowned on on mumsnet?

albert, Cohen is a bad example, as it's not used in Judaism as a first name at all.

Look, whether you like it or not, people will make assumptions about you based on your appearance/accent. If your name seems completely at odds with those, then it causes comment - you can rail against it but it's still gonna happen. I think the majority of people know this and choose their names accordingly.

I'm half Arab but didn't give DS an Arabic name because it would have been completely incongruous on a pale, ginger, blue-eyed, very 'Home Cainties'-accented child (although admittedly his accent wasn't there at birth)! Names should at the very least be chosen so that the child won't have to deal with predictably high numbers of comments throughout his/her life. I know a few adults with 'interesting' names and they invariably go by a nickname that's less comment-worthy.

The only Heavenly I've ever heard of is Heavenly Finley from Sweet Bird Of Youth.
So I'd assume the parents might be Tennessee Williams fans.

I think it sounds much better without the Joy though (or Joy without Heavenly)

Fuck's sake.

So now we must name within a deemed culturally appropriate set of monikers?

Naaaah.