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My friend is being told the name she picked is too 'white'.

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Paige1991 · 18/01/2016 16:12

My best friend is originally from Africa. She's pregnant and wants to call her little girl Lilly.....she has had the snide remark however, that it is too much of a 'white' name. So she wouldn't 'suit' it!

So my question is do 'you' believe that names have a place regarding the colour of skin or culture of a person? I think you should be free to call your baby whatever. I once knew a Matteo (sorry if the spellings wrong) and he was in no sense Italian!

I've never heard of something so silly and horrible!

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brookeberry · 19/01/2016 16:48

Unbelievable! Why do people think they have the right to comment on a child's name. Lilly is a beautiful name, I couldn't care less about her skin tone.

Would you believe this happened with my cat - I called my black cat Tigerlily and I've actually had some people say, but she's not orange, and I'm like, eh??? I like the name!

Some people must be very delicate if this sort of thing sends the world off-kilter for them Grin

OohMavis · 19/01/2016 16:43

I know a little African girl called Lily.

I had the opposite, which was strange. My children are mixed race and my eldest is called Dexter. My family (who are white) were most taken aback because apparently it's a name reserved for elderly Caribbean gentlemen Confused

Pfft!

IssyStark · 19/01/2016 16:24

OP: I think your friend's family are wrong. Lily is a biblical/botanical name. Yes it can be used in the phrase lily white but it doesn't mean white, and has been used by non-whites the world over.

As for Marcus, the only ones I've met have been white (usually upper-middle class) but I would also associate it with Afro-Carribean communities, as I would Winston (who I would expect to a 50+, black Londoner if we are going to stereotypes). Doesn't mean other communities don't use the name, just that it is particularly popular in certain communities.

originalmavis · 19/01/2016 16:10

Morning - she's not a psychologist is she? I've never come across another one.

knittedslippersx2 · 19/01/2016 15:50

I have a blonde haired, blue eyed 20 something dd called EBONY.
Shoot me now!

DiscordiaVanDiemen · 19/01/2016 15:33

I associate Lillies with whiteness. SoWhite Tigerlillies are orange, so conjure up a different picture.
I'm very blonde and would feel ridiculous introducing myself as Ebony. It's nothing to do with the meaning of the name (eg the name Melanie means dark/black but lots of people wouldn't know that; everyone knows ebony wood is black)

Nothing to do with culture really, but with colouring.

hesterton · 19/01/2016 13:46

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morningmistermagpie · 19/01/2016 13:39

I know a black Edelweiss too, I've never thought anything of it.

My son has a Scandinavian name but we're not remotely Scandinavian! Nobody has ever commented.

Stillunexpected · 19/01/2016 13:28

I have no particular feelings either way about using the name Lily for an African baby but have just heard a news item about Spike Lee describing the Oscars shortlist as "lily-white" because there is not a single black actor nominated. So there you have a black director obviously associating the word with whiteness.

MamaLazarou · 19/01/2016 13:21

Lily is a perfectly lovely name for girls of any colour.

White kids called Ebony, though... Hmm

LagoonaBlu · 19/01/2016 10:33

www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/01/spike-lee-white-oscars-160119040258859.html

Spike Lee to boycott Oscars because they are 'lily white'

MummyZELC · 18/01/2016 23:19

I know several Jades. All white European. Names are universal

janethegirl2 · 18/01/2016 21:21

Perhaps spell it as Leleith, nn Lilly

originalmavis · 18/01/2016 20:56

The only Jades I've ever met have been Chinese and like it as a name. I've met a couple of Individuals...

Mumoftwoyoungkids · 18/01/2016 20:54

Am wondering about the name Jade. Maybe only Martians should use it. Grin

Makemineacabsauv · 18/01/2016 20:39

There's a lovely wee black girl called Lily in a class near mine in school and she absolutely suits her name!

SoWhite · 18/01/2016 20:38

Lily makes me think of native Americans, like Tiger Lily, not white people!

I do kind of get where the family are coming from, but tough shit really - it's not their baby.

Katarzyna79 · 18/01/2016 20:18

Put it simply op, shouldnt matter but it can be specific to certain cultures and faiths jusr like dress i suppose.

some names are more universal than others so can easily be used . Id be more concerned as to whether the child would be bullied in theircommunitydue to the name being alien to their culture?

RiverTam · 18/01/2016 19:56

It's very clear what you posted, OP, some people just can't read and are being dimwits. Ignore them.

Paige1991 · 18/01/2016 19:51

I have just read back this thread and I just want to get things straight that I am simply posting on behalf of a friend who told me exactly what was said. I even SAID that I believed the way her family where behaving was horrible!

I asked if a NAME CAN BE STEREOTYPICALLY associated with a person of the basis of their skin,culture etc.

She only wanted to know as the comments made by her family really REALLY upset her. She start to doubt herself as to whether these comments may be true. So I created a thread to see other peoples views.

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Katarzyna79 · 18/01/2016 19:40

Lily is used by all sorts of muslims too its persians arabs indopaks caucasians. Im south asian lily is quite common amongst us i nevrr thght it was just a white nane. Did they mean white or christian? Why say white?

I know iwould prefer a muslim name for my kids because names are very important in .y gaith. We should be recognised as muslim by ournanes nit be ashamed in keeping abrahamic names just to fit in. More important its meant tohave a good meaning and jot refer to idolatory or have negative meanings or connotations.

Having said that technically any name can be kept as long as it has a good meaning they dont have to islamic one or hebrew/ pre islamic ones.

Generally though i can understand why ppl keepnamws relevant to their culture its more the norm helps ppl fit in? Having a name that is strange to that community can lead to bullying right shoukdnt that he considered too not just the parebts right to name but the childs right too? For exsmple i would be happy to nsme my son danyal, christians would say daniel arabs danyaal. but i dobt know sny christians who wiuld bane their child khadija or son muhammad i bet theyd be dead against it in this country.christoans in the arab world however wouldbt see the big deal.

But in my ethnic culture its quite the norm to hear arab names hindu names and western soundinv names. I.e typical salma,rumi, priya, johnny ronny (they dolike rhyming kids names lol, ruby, rosy, sarah,holly, molly, polly (no joke ihave cousins named such loletc. So after all thattome its not tooweird OP lol

TheMouseThatRoared · 18/01/2016 19:39

The op isn't being racist though, so I'm not sure why the thread should be zapped?😖

MummyZELC · 18/01/2016 19:32

The people who say that racism toward white people doesn't exist are part of the problem. Let's call them enablers for arguments sake. Politically correct fucking morons

IfItsGoodEnough4ShirleyBassey · 18/01/2016 19:31

Well that's the Baby Names topic gone for a Burton then WhereYouLeftIt Grin