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Clement, Clarence, Roscoe or Gilbert?

164 replies

ammature · 27/08/2015 13:13

We are totally settled on Astrid if we have a daughter, LOVE IT! but a little confused for a boy. We always had Roscoe in mind way before I was ever pregnant but since being pregnant have come up with a few others. Gilbert, my husband like Gil and I like Bert as nick names, worried child will have 2 diff nicknames! Also like Clarence, Roscoe and Clement, Florian is an outside possibility too. Any thoughts?

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Pranmasghost · 27/08/2015 17:17

I love the name Gilbert and all the associated nicknames. I quite like Roscoe too. Clarence to me will always be the cross eyed lion from Daktari!
I also really like Astrid for a girl.
Some lovely choices op.

Tiggeryoubastard · 27/08/2015 17:16

If you may not like the answers don't ask. Loads have peow have slated them, a lot saying the same as I did. Drippy. We're not saying that because we just want a laugh, you know. We can see that yes, names do have connotations, rightly or wrongly. Kids do get teased. It happens. Sometimes it can be avoided. I'd prefer to do my best for my child to avoid that. Fwiw I do also think the names are ugly. You asked. This is coming from someone that absolutely loved a name for my youngest that I knew deep down would never be possible. If I hadn't realised that and asked about using it, with hindsight I would have appreciated being told.

Squooshed · 27/08/2015 17:16

Lordy.

ammature · 27/08/2015 17:15

Jesus! We are big fans of her music and my husband is a fluent Portuguese speaker- I don't want a pronounciation I would struggle with and I prefer the sound of AstrId. I think it's up to us to know if name is after AG or not? Do I have to justify everything ?

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Shockers · 27/08/2015 17:09

Don't be upset... none of those names are the name of the child growing inside you yet.

There are names that are 'drippier' than others, and names that appear stronger; many authors use that as a tool. Your list obviously veers towards the former and that is why it has been commented on by quite a few posters. However, should your child be male, and you choose one of those names, he will write his own script and could well change the perception of his name for the people he meets.

Pickedmypoison · 27/08/2015 17:09

I don't mind Roscoe actually and it is very different from your other names.

Lweji · 27/08/2015 17:08

It's not another spelling. It's pronounced differently. Which means, it's not really after her.
Not that it matters too much. I even like Astrid.

ammature · 27/08/2015 17:08

Any suggestions?

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thunderbird69 · 27/08/2015 17:07

However, if he will always be known by a nickname such as Ross, Gil or Clem then I think either of those 3 are good.

ammature · 27/08/2015 17:07

I'm not surprised. I'm surprised by the utter vitriol towards them.

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RedToothBrush · 27/08/2015 17:07

Incidentally quite by chance I have just clicked onto a baby name website which has a list of the names that have risen the most places in the England and wales stats between 2013 and 2014.

Roscoe is on the list in 10th place (866th in 2014 stats) having jumped 533 places. There were 34 boys given the name, so you are not alone in your taste by any means.

ammature · 27/08/2015 17:06

I just prefer the other spelling.

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Pickedmypoison · 27/08/2015 17:05

You have picked names that are not in the top 100. The names are not there because they are not popular. They are not popular because they are not generally liked.

So you can't be surprised that people here don't like them either.

Squooshed · 27/08/2015 17:05

I love unusual names I've just never been into the 'old man' genre, whether it's the ultra common Alfie or the far less common Walter.

Lweji · 27/08/2015 17:04

So, why not Astrud (her actual name)?

thunderbird69 · 27/08/2015 17:04

This is what first comes to my mind...
Roscoe = Dukes of Hazzard
Clarence = Lion
Gilbert = and Sullivan
Clement = inclement

Depends on what circles he'll be mixing in, but I think all of those have potential for a lot of teasing

ammature · 27/08/2015 17:03

Really? I should have a precursor on the thread to ask nasty people to not respond. Wow!

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ammature · 27/08/2015 17:02

Thank you. I agree. I think people's points of reference are different to ours. Astrid is named after the Brazilian singer Astrid Gilberto and Roscoe was from the midlake some as also another musician my husband liked. Tbh I think most of the people slagging our names off proberbkynhave kids with common name that we would Never go for so I guess I should remember that.

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BeautifulBatman · 27/08/2015 17:01

Backforthis
If someone posts a thread and you don't like any of the 6 names mentioned maybe you could accept that this person has very different taste to you, leave the thread and not post just to slate them.

Then maybe the OP should think about the thread title a bit more - maybe 'please only reply if you like the names I've short listed.^

ammature · 27/08/2015 16:59

I know 2 grown men who are Clement it's just not that usual to me and I think clem is a nice nick name. I wasn't looking to name my kid after a PM I was just making the point clement atlee was not wet. I think we just have different point of reference to ppl on this thread. For example my husband loves Gil because he likes Gil Scott Heron and so Gilbert came from that.

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RedToothBrush · 27/08/2015 16:58

I think if you don't have the same feeling for a name as you do for Astrid just keep looking for now.

Either one name will start niggling at you as the right one or you'll find another.

OP remember someone will hate your name choice WHATEVER. Even if you choose a top 10 name, so one way or another you have to learn to deal with reactions to a degree (remembering that different generations also have different taste so often hate popular names). Don't take it too personally.

I think that people do jump on the 'the child will get bullied' bandwagon more often than they should too. Again its to do with the names of their own generation rather the names of the generation the child will grow up in. 'Old man' names are the current fashion, so you can pick something different to the more obvious ones but still be very much on trend (and therefore the name won't stick out as much as the protestors believe).

I think that of your names, Gilbert, Clement and Clarence DO fit the old man trend. I'd also say Roscoe fits what I call the current 'dog name trend' (I don't mean that in a negative way, but there are a lot of popular names about which you might give a stereotypical fictional - not real - dog. Think Rufus or Harvey. Noting here that real dogs don't actually tend to be given these names! For me the tag is just a way of labelling a particular type of name and I can't think of a better name for it unfortunately).

It is very much a matter of taste and its difficult at times to view it like that because you do feel like you are exposing yourself when you come up with a suggestion because you invest a lot of yourself emotionally in that choice.

Its about you and your family ultimately though. What's right for you, isn't right for the next person and vice versa and it is as simple as that.

Squooshed · 27/08/2015 16:53

The more I read Clement the more I warm to it. And he'd be in good company in the Telegraph birth announcements.

'Clement Willoughby Francis St.George - a brother for Loveday'.

KitKat1985 · 27/08/2015 16:52

Honestly they're not to my taste, and I think they're a bit 'out there'. If I were to choose out of all of them though I think Roscoe is the best. I'm sorry but Gilbert sounds very 'old man' to me.

Backforthis · 27/08/2015 16:49

'only proper cunts make negative comments about a baby's name when introduced to them in real life.'

Very true. No one told my ILs that Grin

HelsBels3000 · 27/08/2015 16:49

Astrid just reminds me of the character in 'How to Train Your Dragon' film - but I guess its ok.
Clarence I like for a girl, and Clemence.
Roscoe is unusual but not bad. Gilbert is difficult - depends if your surname sounds like it could be a first name. Pet hate - two names that could be reversible. Carter Bridge for example. Could quite easily be Bridge Carter. Hmm

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