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Any welsh speakers that can help with middle name confusion?

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pickwickcrocus · 15/04/2015 07:28

We are trying to decide on a middle name if we have another dd. I'm Welsh but don't speak fluent Welsh sadly.

We have a dd with a Welsh first name and Rose as her middle name. We have decided that we really like the name Thea as a first name for another girl so would like a Welsh middle name.

This is where the slight confusion comes in. We thought it would be lovely if we could use some sort of flower name (Welsh) and then thought maybe Rose but in Welsh, as a nice link to her sister. It seems that there are a couple of words for it so I wanted to see which one is correct or is there one that is more commonly used than others?

Alternately, does anyone know of any unusual flower names in Welsh that are pretty and maybe seasonal at the moment?

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YawnyMcYawn · 19/04/2015 09:34

Congratulations! Enjoy your baby Smile

Kewcumber · 18/04/2015 15:12

Congratulations. Shall we start of Welsh boys names now? Grin

longdiling · 18/04/2015 13:41

Aw how lovely! Congratulations! Enjoy those wonderful newborn cuddles.

MoominKoalaAndMiniMoom · 18/04/2015 13:05

Congratulations!!!!

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pickwickcrocus · 18/04/2015 12:55

Well it seems this thread is now redundant, as we had a little boy! Am in shock, didn't really expect a boy at all!

I'm off to trawl the historic boy name threads and see if anything grabs us Smile

Thank you for all your input.

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longdiling · 17/04/2015 06:53

I hope the little one decides to make an entrance soon pickwick. Thanks for the update, I've been popping back to check for news!

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pickwickcrocus · 17/04/2015 05:37

Thank you everyone Smile

I'm having one of those really fun start stop labours! Regular strong contractions when I'm up and about, as soon as I lie down they stop. Obviously I need to sleep /rest so am just waiting for the baby to decide he or she wants to come out regardless of whether I'm standing up or lying down!

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weebleswillwobble · 16/04/2015 20:02

Gwanwyn - Spring, or Awel, translates to something like breeze (except gentler! Something between air and breeze). I personally love Hafwen, or Lowri which I think translates to laurels.

Pob lwc OP!

YawnyMcYawn · 16/04/2015 13:03

Yes Blush

YawnyMcYawn · 16/04/2015 13:02

Ye - Heulwen is gorgeous.
Looks like the OP might be busy. How lovely Smile

longdiling · 16/04/2015 10:43

Oh and Gwen is fair which I think is quite pretty. Not nature related but I do like the name Non...I think it would sound lovely with Thea. Hope you're ok OP! Look forward to seeing your next post!

longdiling · 16/04/2015 10:35

Heulwen is sunshine, Gwawr is Dawn I think and Enfys is rainbow. I've heard all of these as names. Siriol is 'sparkling' I think.

YawnyMcYawn · 16/04/2015 07:58

Good luck OP
I love the name Thea. And one of the loveliest women I've ever met had that name Smile
Although I'd call a girl Summer in English, to my ears Haf sounds like a boy's name.

MoominKoalaAndMiniMoom · 16/04/2015 07:55

My daughter is Celyn, born in April :)

Pob lwc OP

longdiling · 16/04/2015 07:49

Pob lwc OP!

Penguinotterfoxbadger · 16/04/2015 07:46

Good luck op Flowers and do update us Smile

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pickwickcrocus · 16/04/2015 04:11

Well last evening and this nights events are indicating that it will be an April not May baby, so that sort of rules out Mai, which is a shame as it is short and very pretty, and not at all difficult to pronounce.

I do really like haf as well though dp seems to have trouble pronouncing it! I'm coming round to the idea of fflur, but will test run a few names out if we end up having a girl.

I'm happy with the ll and ch sounds in Welsh but it's not me I'm worried about in terms of pronunciation, its everyone around me!

If anyone else has any short nature inspired names any more suggestions are very welcome!

If I don't manage to come back to the thread soon, apologies. I will update when I can though things seem to have tailed off for a while, hence me mumsnetting at 4am!

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weebleswillwobble · 15/04/2015 19:49

What about Blodeuwedd - from the Welsh Mabinogion tales, the goddess of flowers/blossom?

Agreed Haf is lovely, but would stay away from Briallen as a non-Welsh speaker.

PoppyBlossom · 15/04/2015 17:31

I agree about avoiding Welsh names with the letters ll and ch unless you feel confident that you'd be pronouncing it as a Welsh speaker.

Rhosyn in pronounced ross-in, no harsh roz sound.

SylvaniansAtEase · 15/04/2015 17:21

That was supposed to be Confused sorry!

SylvaniansAtEase · 15/04/2015 17:20

Warning, outside of Wales I know two Fflurs, they are called Flea-ah pretty much by everyone without a Welsh accent... so you would end up with a Thea Flea-ah Hmm

Highlandbird · 15/04/2015 16:25

I would also say rhosyn for Rose, but my vote is for Fflur as a middle name....means flowers, and goes nicely with Thea, it's fairly common as a middle name as well and is easy to pronounce. Smile

SylvaniansAtEase · 15/04/2015 16:21

The only Rhoslyn I've known was an elderly man!

Rhosyn is nice, not usual, prn Ross-inn, the Ross like the boy's name, but ideally with a bit of a rolled R.

Briallen - big no no if you don't speak Welsh. And Eirlys is quite hard for a non Welsh speaker too really.

Thea Haf is lovely, prn Harv, which means summer.

Kewcumber · 15/04/2015 14:43

Rhoslyn isn't common welsh name, apparently it means moor pool

Kewcumber · 15/04/2015 14:39

Rhosyn is pronounced Ross-in with a soft "R" not rolled "rh" is a separate letter in Welsh to "r"

Spring is Gwanwyn (Gwan-win) if you fancy that instead! Never heard it as a name mind you.

Or how about Gwyneira.. it means Snow White!

And pronunciation for Briallen really really isn't "Bree-Ah-LThen".

Put your tongue behind your top teeth as if you're going to say "L" then don't move your tongue and breathe out through the sides of your tongue...