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Charles or Charlie on birth certificate ?

118 replies

BoichallH · 10/02/2015 21:14

One of the names we really like is Charlie but my husband is insisting he should be Charles on the birth certificate. I love Charlie but don't like Charles really. What are your thoughts, should I have the full name on the birth certificate or choose another name entirely ?

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ThinkIveBeenHacked · 11/02/2015 21:04

Could I have said Capable any more times?!

VeronicaCaCa · 11/02/2015 21:04

But her DH wants Charles and unfortunately his opinion matters.

ThinkIveBeenHacked · 11/02/2015 21:04

Go for the name you love. I have a Meg. Not a Megan or a Margaret because I like neither of those.

If my DD is capable enough to become a High Court Judge then she is capable enough to shit on anyones ideas that her name makes her less capable.

longestlurkerever · 11/02/2015 20:59

But the OP loves Charlie. Why does she need to choose something else just because she doesn't like the name that MN thinks she should prefer?

nooka · 11/02/2015 20:32

If you don't like Charles then don't call them Charlie/Charles surely?

Just because something is on your birth certificate it doesn't mean you have to go by that at school, work or anywhere else. My sister has a middle name she hates. I've only ever heard it in reference to her when she got married. It's really not that big a deal except to give your child another option when it comes to their name. They may use it in day to day life or not, up to them.

Bowlersarm · 11/02/2015 20:16

She didn't ask for name calling. No one else is calling anyone a twat, only you.

FoxyMcFox · 11/02/2015 20:14

Why is it bizarre? Op asked for opinions on which name to put on the bc and I gave her mine.

Bowlersarm · 11/02/2015 20:12

What a bizarre comment to make Foxy. No doubt parents calling their newborns Charles would think you are a huge twat for the names you've chosen for your children.

cosytoaster · 11/02/2015 20:11

I went with Charles as I don't like shortened names on bcs, although always intended to call him Charlie day to day. Everyone now calls him Chaz which I hate

FoxyMcFox · 11/02/2015 20:02

*think.

I am a huge twat

FoxyMcFox · 11/02/2015 20:01

If I knew someone had called their newborn Charles I would thing they were a huge twat.

longestlurkerever · 11/02/2015 19:49

But kids these days are given all sorts of weird and wild names that might give recruiters pause for thought but people generally shrug and think "each to their own" and if they don't like it they tend to say so without laying down the law about it.Dd is going to be Beth or Bethan. Both of these are diminutives of Elizabeth but there is no way that is going on the birth certificate. It is a totally different name. Dd may hate being Beth but then dd1 is equally stuck with Anna and that name is quite liked on here.

KentishPud · 11/02/2015 19:34

Well OP will obviously do as she chooses, but I spent a lot of time working in recruitment and I know snap decisions are made when faced with a whole heap of applications. The image conjured up by a name, does make a difference.

longestlurkerever · 11/02/2015 19:31

Because you don't want to saddle them with Charles? It is not a neutral name either. It comes loaded with quite a lot of class and political undertones that from the sound of it isn't what the OP likes.

I get that people have different criteria when choosing baby names but I don't get the superior attitude that comes out when this issue is raised. A preference for Charles over Charlie is just another preference. It isn't an inherently superior choice.

Just as many people will curse their parents for giving them an embarrassing name like Archibald or Millicent as will thank them for giving them "choice".

KentishPud · 11/02/2015 19:20

Ok, so they're not all going to be High Court Judges, but if there's even a tiny possibility that one prospective employer might form an opinion based on someone's name, why would you saddle them with a cutesy nickname until they're old and grey?

longestlurkerever · 11/02/2015 19:11

I can't see the point of naming your precious ds a name you actively dislike and will never use. I know I am in a minority on this one but I can't see the logic of it. Lots of names don't have an obvious nickname but aren't criticised for not affording a choice.

If it bothers you though OP would the spelling Charley help make it feel like a more established name (as in Bonnie Prince)?

eatyourveg · 11/02/2015 17:21

My Charlie is Charles on his BC - don't like Charles, never intended calling him Charles and nowhere except the hospital has ever called him Charles. We put Charles on the BC simply so that he had the choice when he was old enough.

lovelychops · 11/02/2015 17:01

Put charlie. I do not understand the formality - for want of a better word, of putting a name on a certificate that you have no intention of using. I don't think it serves a purpose. Btw I love charlie but really dislike Charles.

lebkuchenlover · 11/02/2015 16:48

Personally I find Charlie a little cutey and would definately give him the full name option.

squoosh · 11/02/2015 16:48

I'm putting a reminder in my phone for February 2065 to remind me to check the first names of all UK High Court judges.

squoosh · 11/02/2015 16:45
Grin

There will be more High Court judges than all the other professions combined. And not one of them will be called Poppy, no siree, because a High Court judge called Poppy would never be taken seriously enough. Apparently.

LikeABadSethRogenMovie · 11/02/2015 16:42

In the future, there are going to be an awful lot of High Court Judges, if MN is anything to go by!

LikeABadSethRogenMovie · 11/02/2015 16:41

If you use Charles, please don't make the mistake I did and only use it when they're in trouble! That's the reason DS hates his bc name!

Murphy29 · 11/02/2015 16:41

I don't understand a BC name when it will never be used. If you like Charlie then just register him as that.

TheyLearnedFromBrian · 11/02/2015 16:38

If in doubt, always go for the option with most flexibility.

Charles!

I don't like it either, really. But maybe he will, and will really thank you for giving him the option. Or maybe he'll always be Charlie and it won't matter at all.

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