Kacpar

cock?
cockerill?
clock?
knock?

lactose?
fructose?

What words in English can people think of that have a hard c followed by a consonant?

Of all the words with a hard c in the middle biscuit and acute come to mind, whereas other words with a c are pronounced 's': illicit, incite, paucity,

A hard c is usually a ch as in archive. But then 'architect' has a ch and a hard c followed by a consonant .

Reading Kacpar phonetically I would 't assume a hard c at all!

Brave that's just a stupid comment. It is not xenophobic to state that I don't know how to pronounce all foreign names on first viewing.

Fuck sake, save your racist accusations for something actually racist. Obtuse right back at ya.

I have a Polish name (and Polish "links") and I find there are so many Poles around now, people are getting used to our names.

Our local shop owner is a Kacper, have never heard anyone call him cackpar.

The cackpar-sayers are a bit xenophobic IMO and being deliberately obtuse.

"In the english language the only words with a soft 'c' sound are followed by a vowel sound."

This ^^

"It's completely understandable that unless you know the name already your first pronunciation would be kack-par. I presumed it was perhaps a middle eastern name or perhaps indian/Pakistani."

I guessed it was probably Polish, but am with the others in thinking that it will get mispronounced and misspelt by people until they are told otherwise. Generally people faced with an unusual looking name will use the phonetic pronunciation, which in this case would be cack-parr.

Not everyone lives in the middle of a multi cultural melting pot and those that do have no right to be condescending towards those that don't.

Meant to say 'if you don't have polish links'

I'll rephrase that then. I'm not laughing.

Bored of this now. It's a name that will be mispronounced frequently in this country and is an odd choice if you don't hav. Parents clearly not bothered. End of story.

I agree with Donna and Janine.

It's quite a big world out there.

No one is laughing are they?

Awful. I laughed out loud. Poor kid to go through life being called cack-parr.

You were saying?

Re: the rest of the thread. Good to see the stupidity in the baby names section is still alive and kicking.

Most people pronounce names as they're said, so I would say Kacpar

No one is laughing are they? And what I said is that I personally would pick a name to fit the culture I lived in. That is what I would do. If the couple in question think choosing a name that causes confusion is a good idea and is naturally pronounced incorrectly in the country they live, that's their choice.

Also if you check the op this family don't even have polish links so why on earth they've chosen a spelling that will deliberately cause confusion is anyone's guess.

In the english language the only words with a soft 'c' sound are followed by a vowel sound.
It's completely understandable that unless you know the name already (I've never heard it) your first pronunciation would be kack-par. I presumed it was perhaps a middle eastern name or perhaps indian/Pakistani.
I think it's a very odd choice for a completely british couple. If you like Caspar call him Caspar!
It's just all a bit try hard for me.

My supervisor at uni was a Bernard.

For that spelling of Casper, you would have to be in an area where people Understood, though. In my Northern Mining Village, most people would probably look puzzled.

Janine My first name is a made up version of an already made up name, last name is Irish... I'm fucked, aren't I? :o

Corporate You are right, my DS1 is already getting it with his name, my Caspar isn't though, it's seemingly becoming quite a normal popular name. I want to remove a letter from DS1' to make it easier on him. But if this person is in an area where it's common then there might not be so many problems.

Fortunately, now when I eventually meet a baby Kacpar, I am well prepared.

I think if I saw it written, I would assume it was a name of a foreign origin or spelling and check how it was pronounced.

Mind you, I want through the first year of reception thinking one little girl was called lucky, because she had Lucy written above her coat peg.

And I was well into college before I learnt that Siobhan was pronounced Shivaun, genuinely thought they were two different names.

I do think it's a bit naff to make fun of spellings of baby names, though.

But the OP has been polite and kind.

Of course its not hard to ask how a name is pronounced, I was just saying that the boy will probably get asked that a lot, through his whole life. Whereas with Caspar, not so much.

LOL at Donna and "James" meaning shit in some forrin country

If I saw a Kacpar or Kacper I would just assume some Polish link somewhere, and pronounce it as Caspar/Casper.

My children have forrin names, luckily I am not from the UK, so I am "allowed" these "eccentricities"....

Cackpar! See even my predictive text doesn't get it!

Usually the sniggering/bemusement on here is about Irish names, glad to see it's being spread around. Progress, perhaps?

Yes but unless you are told, phonetically in this country the automatic pronunciation would be crackpot.

But it's not hard to ask how a name is pronounced. It's okay to think "well how the hell do you pronounce that" but instead of thinking that it's stupid to use the name, you should just ask how to say it. Everyone should be able to name their children what they wish.

I've seen "Lora" described as a made up spelling on here!

And to be fair kacpar isn't quite that bad is it? It's just a misprounciation

There's a difference between things being difficult to pronounce and not knowing how to pronounce something. I find rhotic consonants hard to pronounce, even though I know how they should sound. With Kacper, it's pretty straightforward. Is what I meant.