Irish name - Anglicised spelling - help & opinion please!

Thanks math. Sick of being told Orla is anglicised - it's suggested as a fallback on every irish name thread on here. "For an irish name that's not too Irish "

I agree Awla sounds terrible.

Odd that names like Orla (Orlaith? Orlagh?) and Maeve are acceptably Anglicised, but other Irish names absolutely cannot be messed with.

Irish spelling was standardised and updated in the 1940s (iirc). Orla is the modern Irish version of the very old Orfhlaith and its not so old version Orlaith (just as Mairead is the modern Irish version of the very old Mairghread, and its later, not so old version Maighread.)

Neither Orla nor Mairead are anglisiced. Orlaith and Orla are both Irish spellings. Orlaith is more archaic.

There are people who would never use the anglicised Maeve but would plump for Medb (Old Irish as found in Thomas Kinsella's 'Tain') or Maedhbh or Maebh. I know a few who use the latter two spellings and one Medb.

Unless you have a certain accent when Aw la sounds bloody terrible .

I've got the sort of name you've got to spell out every single time unless you're in my native country... and I chose a very international name for my own child.

Always having to explain your name gets old fast... so I'd be in the Orla camp.

If you lived in Ireland it would be different, but in the UK I just see a lot of "No, A I, not A N..." etc in her future.

I wouldn't anglicise it. It's not like it's complicated to spell. I have a very common English name that happens to have a couple of variants so often have to clarify/spell. I don't even think about it.

I'd stick the fada on the name on the birth cert but I wouldn't bother with it day to day if I was living in England. It would just throw people.

OP - dd and ds both have irish names and are growing up in England. I can honestly say it is not a problem (except for the supply teacher who referred to dd as "miss funny name"). The dcs like their slightly unusual names and teachers cope just fine.

You do have to accept that people will constantly spell Irish names incorrectly, but that is just fine by me, as long as they call them by their correct names.

I agree janine. My Irish family reckon orla is just modern rather than an attempt to anglicise it.

I think Orla is a modernisation rather than an Anglicisation.

Sorry Francis, I was responding to the op about how using the fada is relevant because it changes the way it is pronounced in the Iris language. Áine is Awnya, Aine is Aana.

in our school it is Lucia that seems to cause all the problems

is it Loochia?
Loosia?
Lookia?

at least with Aine there is only one correct way to pronounce it!

if we can cope with Niamh, Siobhan, Ciara we can definitely manage Aine.!

ignore MIL
why are you listening to / asking her opinion anyway?

It can also be Órla in Irish , like DD.

Irish spelling for Orla is Orlaith (although different parts have variations).
To use the fada, (For capital letter put on caps lock key), press the 'Alt Gr' button the same time as the letter that letter that requires the fada. If you're using smart phone to text, hold down the letter and it gives different options for different languages.

Orla is Orlaith, sometimes Orlagh. But Orla is v common in Ireland.

OP have you considered Úna?

They are two different names. Odd that names like Orla (Orlaith? Orlagh?) and Maeve are acceptably Anglicised, but other Irish names absolutely cannot be messed with.

Awomb, so sweets' message wasn't in response to mine?
I'm so confused now. Is it too early to have some wine.......???

They are two different names, the OP has been considering both of them.

Well, I've just shown my total ignorance. I always assumed Aine and Orla were two different names??? Both the Orla's I know pronounce it as Awrla (and that is what I've always called them and have never been corrected!) and I saw from the OP thread that Aine is Awnyah?

Thw correct Irish spelling is Áine (the fada over the A changes the pronunciation to aww, without the fada would be pronounced ah) . Áine is irish for Anna.

penguins Knowing two Irish Orla's, I always assumed that was the Irish spelling? If this is anglicised, what is the correct Irish spelling, out of interest?
FWIW, I don't think you should ever anglicise. It is other people's responsibility to show respect. I always have to correct people on my name/surname and it irks the tits off me and I sometimes feel embarrassed to ask people to rewrite but in the end it is MY NAME and they should make the effort, just like I do with others .
And, frankly, it is just a continuation of the Empire, anglicising.

Keep it as Áine! I say that as a teacher in the UK and the mother of a beautiful little Áine.