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Can I, as a Feminist, call my daughter Violet?

56 replies

Laetitia1 · 01/08/2014 00:06

After many a year of adoring botanical names for girls, it suddenly dawned on me (and I hate myself for this, so do forgive me) that choosing a flower name is perhaps not the most feminist thing to do, for the reason that flowers are above all valued for their appearance and fragrance and are ultimately useless. Then I got all cross at the idea that it is only females who are given flower names, presumably because males are not prized above all for their aesthetic qualities. I am Most Miffed that I have had this thought, as it has quite put me off all my girls' names. I have also put myself off names with an 'ee' -sounding ending for the reason that it is the way of signalling the diminutive in English, which, once again, does not sit well with my feminist ruminations. Am I insane? Thanks

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Hobbes8 · 01/08/2014 09:58

Rowan is a unisex plant name. I'm sure there's others.

Picklepest · 01/08/2014 09:55

Way over thinking your pfb.

Way over thinking.

LEMmingaround · 01/08/2014 09:54

I think you should call her william. Sorted.

callipygian00 · 01/08/2014 09:53

I agree with Maggie - why would you restrict yourself just because you are fighting against restriction of females? Violet is a great name, and not particularly frilly. Why not look at it as females CAN be given a flower name (it's not automatic or compulsory), but for males the beautiful name Rose is not really an option, IYSWIM?

ChickenMe · 01/08/2014 09:52

Flowers are amazing-a love of gardening and nature is a positive thing and certainly not lilly-livered. As well as being beautiful and interesting they bring a lot of happiness to people. (I wanted to be a botanist as a kid, wish I had been. I'd defo use a flower name).
Don't over analyse or you will become bonkers!!

birdofthenorth · 01/08/2014 07:52

Flowers are the reproductive organs of plants, which give oxygen and therefore life to the world, so not useless.

I appreciate they are valued for their fleeting beauty though.

As a feminist myself, I am not a massive fan of frilly ornamental girls' names. DD has a one syllable, non frilly name. Having said that, Emmeline, Christabel and Millicent were not held back by frilly names.

For what it's worthy, Violet is my favourite of the flower names, and yes, purple was the suffragette's lead colour. Plus The Color Purple would be a great present for a Violet.

I suppose one feminist conclusion might be a unisex name?! Jude, Alex, Ashley...?

JohnFarleysRuskin · 01/08/2014 06:45

Violet Elizabeth bott was very...assertive!

rosemarytwinkle · 01/08/2014 06:40

In some languages there are male names that are flowers. I can't think of any in English but certainly where I live there are both male and female versions of the name 'marigold'. And this is quite a patriarchal society.

weatherall · 01/08/2014 06:26

I think you should repost this in fwr rather than baby names.

People here love flower names!

From a feminist pov yes there is lots of sexism in baby naming.

Girls often get 'pretty' frilly names, usually ending in a vowel or vowel sound.

Boys often get 'strong' steady names that end in consonants.

Violet is probably the most feminist of flower names because of the suffragette colour and ending in a consonant.

Really from a feminist pov we should try to move towards gender neutral names... But that is a whole other thread. And I'm a hypocrite there.

maggiethemagpie · 01/08/2014 06:13

Ps I had some violet liqueur with my Prosecco last week. Very nice it was too.

maggiethemagpie · 01/08/2014 06:12

And I thought feminism was all about empowering choice, not restricting your choices! Yes, I think you may be very slightly insane. Why not call her violet if you want to?

ZeroSomeGameThingy · 01/08/2014 01:18

You are joking yes?

Have you not heard of bees?

Or pharmaceutical companies?

Or the apple in the garden of Eden?

Flowers are just about the most powerful thing on Earth.

EthicalPickle · 01/08/2014 01:08

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Don't name her after the flower name her after Palma Violets, they are really important to me

You could also just name her after the colour violet, you need violet for rainbows.

Can I, as a Feminist, call my daughter Violet?
Alisvolatpropiis · 01/08/2014 01:04

You are overthinking this.

Surely, given you are such a feminist, giving your daughter a very feminine name should be fine?

You could cut out the middle man and just call her David though.

ArsenicFaceCream · 01/08/2014 00:58

It's not like you're naming her Fanny Lowerwage.

Smile
TheFillyjonk · 01/08/2014 00:53

Don't cut off your own nose to spite your face (wait, nice faces with noses aren't very feminist, are they? Grin). If you like the name Violet, use it. Violets are not useless - they're used in fragrances, dyes and food flavourings. Purple is also a very noble and powerful colour.

EthicalPickle · 01/08/2014 00:53

Fanny Lowerwage. Grin .....Too funny

lettertoherms · 01/08/2014 00:50

It's not like you're naming her Fanny Lowerwage.

BOFster · 01/08/2014 00:47

Maybe it's because it's late, but I'm getting all existential now. Isn't EVERY species of everything basically useless? It just IS.

iK8 · 01/08/2014 00:46

I think she was Violette Szabo.

Op, you may be a leetle bit insane WinkGrin

thecuntureshow · 01/08/2014 00:43

Flowers are useless?

News to me

MissPricklePants · 01/08/2014 00:43

I'm a feminist and my dd has a flower name, almost went with Violet but chose Poppy (which is not too popular around here!) she is 5 and is the most amazing child! Not twee and cutesy but headstrong and determined!

BOFster · 01/08/2014 00:42

Good call, Stands. I agree.

StandsOnGoldenSands · 01/08/2014 00:37

Name her after Violet Szabo - a very deserving tribute.

noblegiraffe · 01/08/2014 00:31

Why not call her something macho like Tank or Gun instead? That'll show the patriarchy.