In your opinion, can people with names like 'Posy', 'Kitty' or 'Dotty' be taken seriously?

People judge names. That was a fact long before Katie Hopkins mentioned it. There are studies about it. Google is wonderful, check it out.

This thread reminds me of that ex apprentice chick saw a YouTube clip of her suggesting if kids have names like Tyler or charmaine she wouldn't let her kids socialise with them. Most likely they won't do well in school.p. keep ba company use bad language and have a low social status. Wat a biatch. do you know who I'm on about she was on this morning programme.? Funnily she said to geographical or botanical names yet her kids are India and poppy lool

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My point was it's not a new name.

I am far from religious. Biblical is just another way of "old" imo.

Also -

In an employment basis people see CV's first. So names do matter.

Noah in the bible lived to age 400 or even longer allegedly..

Name discrimination is very real. Sorry to disappoint you but studies have demonstrated this.

And HR (usually responsible for hiring) is generally staffed with an educated bunch.

I'm pretty intelligent myself (fact not a "boast) and whilst I don't judge per se, nickname style names aren't my thing at all.

Sorry if it offends you that people don't like your child's name.

I don't care whether a name would sound good after Doctor or Judge there are people from many different ethnic backgrounds in many professions and therefore that sort of consideration is immaterial. You could be treated by an awe inspiring doctor whose name was the Hindi equivalent of Tiffani or Kayden and never know it. What would hold me back would be an image of someone aged 49 in an average job, dealing with teenage kids and with a bit of a spare tyre and the start of bingo wings how would the name Daisy suit that woman?

Yeah, this whole topic pisses me off. One of my sons' first name on his bc is Buddy. It's not his nickname, it's his first name. He has middle names which he could probably use if he so wished when a bit older, but he seems perfectly happy so far. I have every confidence that he will succeed in whatever he chooses to do - whether that be law, following me into the police force, boxing, accountancy, physiotherapy, whatever. As long as he's prepared to work hard for it, I doubt anyone with a modicum of intelligence will discriminate against him because of his first name. It's just a shame to see so many people on here who would.

Well imo I don't think such names are so. We are all entitled to our opinions.

The whole point of this forum is to garner opinions is it not?

Names are subjective. My DD is called Posy and I've never considered it 'cutesy'. To me, it's feminine and beautiful.

That anyone with a modicum of intelligence would admit to judging her one day or be so ignorant as to question her ability or suggest that she has somehow been disadvantaged because of the name we've chosen for her blows my mind. It's just a (IMO fabulous) name. Get a fucking grip people.

I know this alis but it's a cutesy name now.

Again, most of the examples of women using those names are women who have chosen to use those shortened forms of their given name.

Noah is an ancient/biblical sweetie same as Matthew,John, Luke etc.

Noah has always been well used in the Jewish community I believe.

I'm with your mum sorry. I think the Daisy's and Poppy's are so cute for babies but even as teenagers I think it sounds odd. I teach in an all girls private school and my student daisy applied for accountancy she felt funny about her name,. I also had a pansy who applied for law and was worried about her name and not been taken seriously. I really liked Maisie when expecting dd1 but just couldnt bring myself to do it. I couldn't imagine her in a high powered job been taking seriously with a name like that. Now I'm expecting again struggling with boys names. I like Noah cute for a little boy but not a 45 year old man! Especially if he put on lots of weight 45 year old oversight bloke called Noah -odd!

Nell is a nickname for Helen,Eleanor or Cornelia.

You also lose most of your namesakes committing straight to a nickname.

Dotty is cute - but Dorothy Parker is inspiring - and you can have both at the stroke of a pen!

Things were certainly serious for Little Nell.

Nell with nick name nelly is fab. And nell seems quite serious GP wise!!. Polly is quite a well to do name. Kitty is usually short fort Katherine or katie but is fine on its own. Posy is very sweet. Dotty could be a nick name for Lottie??

Wet I'm glad I got the gist of it right, would be embarrassing given sil has explained it!

I can't for the life of me remember which way round her names go. I know the one I,dp and bil call her must be the family nickname. But after that I'm not so hot at keeping track.

Alis is spot on - it's a Russian thing. It's why people find it so hard to keep track of the characters in War and Peace.

So a bailiff would use "Madame Grass"
A colleague would use "Wetty'anna Ivanovna"
A friend would use "Wet"
My family would use a diminutive like "Wet-inka" or "Wet-asha"

So imagine if you made the news for something unpleasant - every headline shouting "Wet is a nasty scumbag. Lock up Wet and throw away the key" . You go home for your tea - someone says 'pass the salt Wet' - and everyone shudders (because Wet is a lowlife scumbag according to all reports). If you have a special name that friends use, then that is protective - and helps signal the boundaries of intimacy.

The example is Russian - but nicknames are a universal phenomenon, for precisely the reason of marking out privileged intimates. I think it's a bit mean to steal someone's chance to have a nice nickname, when there are no consequences to having a spare formal name on a birth certificate!

Your mother is being ridiculous. As others have said, these names are now so common that the next generation of politicians, judges, accountants, journalists will contain many women with those names. They will be common enough to appear on multiple CVs on every job search. It's nonsense to imagine a scattering of poor, passed over Lolas and Poppys and Daisys being spurned while the Margarets and Emmas get the jobs. Ellie and Rosie etc, like it or not, are just going to be what women are called.

Well, I think women with cutesy names can be jsut as successful as the Phillipas and Catherines, but I'm old fashioned and would go with teh long name on the birth certificate.

For some reason, I particularly dislike boys being called Bobby/Alfie as their actual name, although I have no idea why.

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Wetgrass is explaining that in most countries people have a formal name and then family nicknames. The two do not mix.

Hence the whole Russian Natalya/Nataly/Nastasha thing (can't remember which is what, my sil is Russian with the above name).

I don't get WetGrass post actually. WetGrass is it because you don't like the names Sammy and Suzie that you wouldn't want your GP and Bank Manager to use them, and it would be alright if the names were Helen and Sarah.?

Or do you just want them to call you Ms WetGrass and not use a first name at all?

Sorry, I'm on Team Mum as well.

Great post WetGrass.