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Is Aoibhe a step too far in the UK?

260 replies

mika2 · 09/05/2013 23:09

I'm Irish, living in the UK and due DD1 in 4 mths. I really want to give the baby an irish name - DH has reluctantly agreed - and had come up with an extensive list of boys names i liked (and was convinced it was a boy!) but now i know it's a girl I'm still struggling. Not helped by the fact that a lot of them (Ciara, Tara, Niamh, Beibhinn, Saoirse, Siun) have already been taken by my very extended family. At the moment this is the best we can come up with;

Clodagh (klo-da) - but DH is insisting on nn chloe (which defeats the purpose of giving the baby an Irish name IMO)
Aoife (ee-fa) - pretty, but v v common in ireland and getting more so here?
Caoimhe (quee-va) - I love, but DH isn't so keen
Aoibhe (eva) - alternative to aoife, but a bit more "out there" than the others as even Irish ppl seem v confused on how to pronounce. And with such an obvious english alternative, can see DH/DD giving up and spelling it Eva eventually

Thoughts on the above for a baby growing up in the uk? And any other suggesions gratefully received!

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PerfumedPonce · 14/05/2013 22:16

Jaysus, the spellings Orfhlaith and Orlaith are archaic and anachronistic? Says who? I presume this is just your opinion AThing because there is absolutely no truth in what you are saying. You don't like old Irish spellings of Irish names. Fine. Whatever. But don't pretend that anyone who chooses the correct spelling of a name (I.e. spelling an Irish name in the Irish language! Imagine!) is somehow out of touch or burdened with 'fancy notions'. Mother of God, arrogant much?

AThingInYourLife · 14/05/2013 09:11

Nordy? :)

hollyisalovelyname · 14/05/2013 07:27

I pronounce it Gobnit. Smile

AThingInYourLife · 13/05/2013 23:54

Orla is not an anglicised spelling.

It's the standard spelling in Irish.

Maeve is anglicised (no v in Irish)

Finola is anglicised (the Irish name is Fionnuala)

But Orla is Irish. Just a more simple, modern spelling than Orfhlaith, which is archaic and anachronistic.

TapselteerieO · 13/05/2013 23:30

My parents gave me and my brothers old/odd names - and did not spell them as they are pronounced in English - not phonetic spelling - we have grown up with an English pronounciation of our names, it is such a shock when someone pronounces my name correctly.

Dd has an Irish name (dh is Irish) it has a Scottish connection which isn't obvious - we used the anglicised spelling - people with certain accents still struggle with it because of the combination of letters. I think her name is becoming more popular but it is still fairly uncommon.

I like Orla, if I ever had another girl that would be my first choice, even though I like the Irish spelling I would go for the anglicised spelling, just because I have lived with the annoyance of having to explain my name all my life.

forgetmenots · 13/05/2013 22:29

I say gub-nitch too. Even less attractive. I think you might be on to something there AThing!

squoosh · 13/05/2013 22:22

Wikipedia says 'The main centres of devotion to Gobnait are Inis Oírr (Aran Islands), Dún Chaoin in West Kerry and Balleyvourney near the Cork / Kerry border'she was from Cork.'

My thoughts and prayers are with the Gobnaits of Cork, Kerry and Inis Oírr. Life won't be easy!

squoosh · 13/05/2013 22:16

I presume Gobnait was some local saint somewhere in Ireland. People could be very loyal to their local saints no matter how butt ugly their names were.

Baby Gobnait - it really doesn't get worse than that!

AThingInYourLife · 13/05/2013 22:06

Gubnitch is how I say it.

I just can't believe that is how it is meant to be said.

There must have been a different name once that got misspelled or something and it was somehow transformed into a bizarre ugly name.

How could anyone look at a tiny little baby, minutes old, so new and precious and delicate and think "you are Gobnait"?

:o

Quangle · 13/05/2013 21:56

OK, that's not good. Perhaps it means "beautiful ethereal maid of the hills"?

It sounds like it means "mouthy old bat".

squoosh · 13/05/2013 17:44

It doesn't sound melodious from anyone's voice Quangle!

squoosh · 13/05/2013 17:43

It's pronounced Gub-nut, with a short u in the 'nut'.

CounselorTroi is your mother, ummmmm, fond of her name?

Quangle · 13/05/2013 17:31

How do you say Gobnait?

I'd say Gob Nate. It doesn't sound pretty, I confess, but maybe in Irish it comes out sounding melodious.

CounselorTroi · 12/05/2013 21:22

My mother is a Gobnait.

JennyMakkers · 12/05/2013 11:18

I like Grainneog for a scruffy long-haired little urchin too! good doggie names. keep 'em coming! Wink

JennyMakkers · 12/05/2013 11:16

Oh gobnait is a good name for a dog I thnk. My friend is trying to re-name a rescue dog. I will suggest that. I think she'll like it. she was thinking of something along the lines of Beryl.

squoosh · 12/05/2013 03:49

Gobnait is in a special class of UGLY all by itself. I've never met one in real life.

squoosh · 12/05/2013 03:48

I forgot about Grainneog!

CounselorTroi · 12/05/2013 01:56

or Grainneog (hedgehog). My sister is Grainne, we called her 'ugly hedgehog' . We were lovely :)

Loving the idea of 'fancy notions'!!

hollyisalovelyname · 12/05/2013 01:30

Squoosh are you me? My sentiments exactly. Gobnait followed by Grainne are my least favourite Irish names. I think Gobnait sounds like gobdaw as in ' you're a right gobdaw'

squoosh · 11/05/2013 23:41

I do find it funny that names like Aoife and Orla are fashionable in England when to my ears they're about as hip as Karen and Sharon.

squoosh · 11/05/2013 23:40

Ugh not Gráinne, my least favourite Irish girls name ever, well, after Gobnait.

It sounds far too like gránna (grawna) which means 'ugly'.

JohnSnowsTie · 11/05/2013 17:59

Bugger... was really starting to like Bronagh until someone upthread pointed out the meaning!

nooka · 11/05/2013 17:48

I think that the work/professional issue is more likely to be email than anything else. I would imagine that people with names with very (to an English eye, which does matter if you live in England) different/unlikely sort of spelling will have problems getting email addresses misspelled and therefore not received.

It doesn't really matter if people mispronounce or misspell names on occasion in the general scheme of things, but getting emails wrong is a major nuisance.

I have an unusual name, which people generally pronounce OK, but I always have to spell it, and for email purposes I always double check they have it right. I have missed important emails on a number of occasions. My name is very unusual but follows the same sort of rules as a number of other more common names, I think the problem with some of the names talked about on this thread is that the spelling/pronunciation combos are so unfamiliar to an English eye that there is nothing to help someone coming across them.

I know that when I worked with a Siobhain I had to think about her consciously as both 'shevaun and siob-hain' to hold both the spelling for email and the pronunciation for talking, and that's a pretty easy Irish name.

DolomitesDonkey · 11/05/2013 17:26

Thank you, that's lovely! I once knew a Grainne by email and had often pondered!

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