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Talk to me about... surname names

86 replies

BraveLilBear · 01/05/2013 14:59

Just that really... DP and I have finally managed something of a shortlist for our soon to be DC, and two of the names on there are surname names (ie taken from a renowned surname), and one is also an American place name.

I used to be quite 'anti' them, but really like at least one of these and think it would work well. But what's the consensus?

I'm thinking distinguished names along the lines of 'Newton' (from Isaac) rather than 'Smith'...

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Catlike · 03/05/2013 08:26

OP specifically asked for people's opinions on surname names. She gave the impression that she wasn't necessarily expecting everyone to be enthusiastic.

In that context, it seems perfectly reasonable to say "no I don't like them and this is why". If OP had posted a thread saying she loved surname names and wanted more suggestions then it would be rude to say you don't like them. I really don't see the problem in this case though.

HenriettaChicken · 03/05/2013 07:46

Middle name for ds is mil's maiden name. Second choice was my dm's maiden name. But they are both in top 100 boys names. We considered them because they were perfectly reasonable! I say go for it.

MortifiedAdams · 03/05/2013 07:45

Is it Darwin?

Panzee · 03/05/2013 07:40

Do some of you also disapprove of forenames for surnames, e.g Heather Graham, John Terry? Grin
Although now wondering which category Cole fits into. Cheryl Cole or Cole Porter? Guess its not that easy to pigeonhole after all Wink

LalyRawr · 03/05/2013 07:33

My daughters middle name is my dads aunt's (who adopted him) maiden name. Still with me? :p

But really, who the fuck cares what a bunch of randoms on the Internet think? Call your baby what you like and screw everyone else!

PattieOfurniture · 03/05/2013 07:24

Some horrible snobby, shallow and judgy people on this thread.
Let's all name our children 'proper' names shall we? Hmm

I like surnames as forenames Op. What have you got on your list? :)

Trishstar · 03/05/2013 07:12

We called our DS Hunter, a fair few people on here flamed it!

But we love it and everyone we meet comments on it and say how much it suits him. In the hospital and scbu everyone kept saying how much they loved it cos its different but not silly different!

Theonlyoneiknow · 02/05/2013 23:34

As long as surname is an obvious surname ie, i know a Campbell Scott and everyone gets his name muddled up. I like surnames as first names ie, Jackson, Harrison, Campbell, Murdoch, Cameron etc

ShadowStorm · 02/05/2013 23:25

I think it depends a lot on the name.

I used to work with someone who had a surname name as his first name, and then a surname that was more commonly a first name - so his name was along the lines of Harrison Thomas - and that was very confusing at first.

usualsuspect · 02/05/2013 15:46

Pure Chav?

Ugh to this thread.

squoosh · 02/05/2013 14:37

Mmmm, I quite like Fletcher as it reminds me of Mel Gibson's character Fletcher Christian from Mutiny on the Bounty.

He was beeeyootiful in that film.

ABirdInTheBush · 02/05/2013 14:31

I think there's a fine line between chav and cool. Mitchel and Taylor screamed across the playground = pure chav. But then I know two grown-up men called Spencer and Fletcher, respectively, and both of them have that edgy-cool-but-work-hard-and-achieve thing about them. I think their names have helped them along a bit.

Not sure about Newton, tbh. He would just be called Newt, wouldn't he? Cute while he is little - but not so great at school and beyond.

I like what you're trying to do, but the name reminds me more of a small pond creature than a pioneering scientist.

pickledginger · 02/05/2013 14:23

It was Newton Heath I was thinking of Grin. United's original name.

squoosh · 02/05/2013 14:19

That reminds me, Ally McCoist's sons are called Mitchell and Argyll. Never really thought Argyll worked as a first name.

BraveLilBear · 02/05/2013 14:17

Pickledginger noooooooo! My DH is a rare football-hating creature for which I am thankful - our child will not be called Ferguson Smile

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ImaginaryHat · 02/05/2013 13:24

Pickledginger your Newton Alexander comment just made me think of this scene from Cougar Town when Laurie finds out Smith's surname, made me giggle anyway! 19 mins 23 seconds in.

lljkk · 02/05/2013 12:23

They are quite common in real life (MN is not real life). So I think the consensus "out there" is that they are perfectly respectable.

zoetstoffen · 02/05/2013 12:05

As said it's very common in Scotland.

We did it - we used Darwin. One person asked if it was after the place, but aside from that everyone else has mentioned Charles Darwin or simply commented what a cool name it is.

pickledginger · 02/05/2013 12:00

Your DH isn't a sneaky United fan is he?

pickledginger · 02/05/2013 11:55

Then if you like the name, go for it. They aren't everyone's choice but when your child is actually born and named no-one's likely to give it any thought. When people say they don't like surnames as first names they're generally thinking of the same dozen or so names that are over used.

BraveLilBear · 02/05/2013 10:45

Lol pickledginger I very much agree that that would be a challenge! There's no way our surname could be confused as a first name. Ironically Grin

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BraveLilBear · 02/05/2013 10:44

Thanks for the input - I do agree that some surname names are on the chavvier end of the spectrum and that does bother us!

I think the redeeming feature is the main one that we have in mind is of an old English origin and is not an occupation name.

It is just very unusual, and everyone will instantly think of the noted scientist that inspired the name.

The reason it appeals is that we like the idea of naming DC after someone to aspire to, plus we live in an area that isn't the nicest (at the moment), so there are lots of names being screamed at god awful pitches outside our house.

Plus having DC1 in a baby boom, at the back end of the school year (due end July), we think it would really help to have a distinctive (but not chavvy made-up) name to set them apart in the future...

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pickledginger · 02/05/2013 10:31

No. No, no, no. No. That's just my view though. One thing that does matter is if you have a surname that sounds like a first name eg Alexander. A Newton Alexander would spend a fair bit of time explaining that, no, he hadn't filled the form in wrong.

othersideofchannel · 02/05/2013 09:39

All names were first names originally, as someone above said. The purpose of a name is to identify you so middle and surnames were added, in case others shared your first name.

As long as a name sounds nice and identifies you, who cares if historically it has been used more as first, second or third name?

I know people with surnames that sound like first names, e.g. Alexander, Quentin, Oliver. Again, who cares?

squoosh · 02/05/2013 01:41

To be fair it's not a purely American trend. Living in Scotland I've met a lot of men called Campbell, Blair etc. It's something they've done for generations.

I do think it works better for boys though.

Americans seem to love names like Porter, Hunter, Cooper - old occupational type names.

There also seems to be a growing trend to use Irish surnames as first names e.g. Quinn, Rafferty, Cassidy. I don't really like it as to me they are so obviously surnames. If you know a lot of people with these surnames it's harder to see them as first names. That might just be me though.