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Girls name - is this too weird?

58 replies

Teapig · 21/02/2013 21:27

We like the name Safia but is it too out there?

I know it sounds very similar to Saskia or Sofia but funnily I'm not keen on either of those.

Is it too out there?

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Teapig · 22/02/2013 16:13

I'm definitely in the camp of not worrying about not having a connection with the country the name originates from. I think you if only stuck to names from countries you have a connection with you'd be very, very limited. As badtime and jenai have mentioned that would rule out a lot of popular names like Isobel, Joseph etc. So the lack of connection with the origin of the name doesn't worry me.

I guess my main worry is how it's pronounced. It sounds like there are a few variations so it's likely people would get it wrong and she may end up going along with people calling her Sophia just for an easier life. But I do really like it though so may just have to burden her with it.

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mmmuffins · 22/02/2013 14:02

JenaiMorris I just an image of the parents of a Mary being asked if their family was from the Bethlehem area, lol.

TheSeventhHorcrux · 22/02/2013 14:00

*odd not off, sorry!

badtime · 22/02/2013 13:59

Sophia is Greek - it means wisdom.

In Italian, I believe 'Sofia' is the more conventional spelling.

TheSeventhHorcrux · 22/02/2013 13:59

My first thought was that it sounds like a type of sellotape.

I also agree with mmmuffins; its off to give your child a name that insinuates your child is from a different country with no actual connection.

JenaiMorris · 22/02/2013 13:55

And of course biblical names have a Middle Easter origin, don't they.

All those fancy foreign names like Mary, Joseph and Daniel Wink

lljkk · 22/02/2013 13:40

I thought Sophia was Italian, you know Sophia Loren, and she made that name internationally known.

I never heard of Saphia as a name until this thread.

badtime · 22/02/2013 13:05

Why would you call your child Sophia if you had no connection with Greece?
Wink

Speckledy · 22/02/2013 13:02

It's a lovely name, much nicer than Sapphire or Saffron in my opinion. I knew a Safia when I was at school over 20 years ago and as far as I recall it was SAF-iyah and I don't remember it being seen as difficult to remember or pronounce. I think some of her family were Malaysian so possibly a Muslim background but I really don't think it's the sort of name that's so odd that you would necessarily expect that sort of connection.

lljkk · 22/02/2013 13:00

Sometimes it sounds pretentious to use a name so obviously from another culture, especially when it's a "hard work" name like Saphia.

I wouldn't use it because she will spend her life explaining it's not Sophia (lovely name, too). Saffron with nn Saffy is nice.

mmmuffins · 22/02/2013 12:54

I think it is pretty. However, I think it is weird to give your child a name that insinuates your child is from a different country/culture, when you have no connection to said country/culture.

neolara · 22/02/2013 12:54

I don't think it's an odd name at all. I'm slightly surprised that people might think this. I think it's lovely.

Rhubarbgarden · 22/02/2013 12:51

Well, personally I do think it's a bit odd to use French and Irish names if you have no connection to those countries.

I wouldn't say you shouldnt do it though. Just that it's a bit odd. Obviously people can call their children what they like, whether that's Finn or Chocolate Teapot. It doesn't stop some choices appearing strange to others.

SashaSashays · 22/02/2013 12:50

I've know a couple of Safiyahs, pronounced to rhyme with Raffia (as in furniture), the emphasis is on the SAF, so its SAF-iyah,

I don't think its too odd at all. Maybe it depends where you live. I would probably assume you had an arabic or islamic connection.

I like it, its different without being out there.

badtime · 22/02/2013 12:30

I don't think that Safia or Safiya are too weird, even without an Arabic/Islamic connection. Zara is a version of Zahra which has become mainstream. Maryam isn't unusual either. Safia sounds like an ordinary name.

I don't understand why it is acceptable to use names from some countries you have no connection with and not others. Does anyone tell people they shouldn't call their child Amelie if they're not French, or Finn if they're not Irish or Scottish?

TenthMuse · 22/02/2013 11:52

It's pretty, but I'd assume you'd have some Arabic connection, as I've taught a few Safia/Safiyas, all of whom had Middle Eastern heritage. I suspect that with a non-Arabic background, people might assume you were aiming for a creative spelling of Sophia. Would personally go for something similar sounding like Sapphire/Saffron.

Lizzy1975 · 22/02/2013 11:36

I know a Saphia. Lovely name.

TheCountessOlenska · 22/02/2013 11:28

I like it - Yes Saffy for short like in AbFab but that's ok!

Rhubarbgarden · 22/02/2013 11:21

It's ok as a name, but a bit odd to use it if you don't have an Arabic connection.

JenaiMorris · 22/02/2013 09:31

I was going to mention before you did that it sounds Arabic. It's lovely. It's a real name and it isn't weird at all.

I love Saskia (sorry, I know you don't!) and Saffron.

Gwennan · 22/02/2013 09:19

I've found an Algerian man saying Safiyyah here: www.forvo.com/word/%D8%B5%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%A9/

Apparently Safiyya is the name of one of Muhammad's wives.

I think I'd either spell it the traditional transliterated way, pronounce it properly, and call it a beautiful Arabic name or spell it my own way, pronounce it how I wanted, and call it a made up name inspired by Sophia/Safiyya.

I think you might just get a lot of people calling her Sophia or Safiyya though (as per forvo.com pronunciation above).

seeker · 22/02/2013 09:12

Ow can you possibly love a name if you only think you know how it's pronounced?

Gwennan · 22/02/2013 09:10

I think it's pronounced sa-FEE-ya.

Probably best to check before you use it but I've always thought it was pronounced SAH-fee-ah (I suppose with the beginning rhyming with Taffy).

SavoirFaire · 21/02/2013 22:27

Lovely name. Think hard about the spelling. I have a DD with a very unusual ('forrin') name. Everybody - really, everybody - pronounces it wrong first time and I do worry that she will get a major complex about it. Had we added one letter to her spelling then I think 90% of people would get it right first time. When we're at places where I have to write her name down and then someone will call it out in a waiting room, I add the extra letter, so there's more chance of people getting it right. I'd have felt silly adding the letter on her birth cert, as it would have made it a made up name rather than an unsual (but classical) name. However, it would probably make her life a little easier. Having said that, I have an unusual-ish name too and people got my name wrong a fair amount and I dealt with it, but it can be annoying especially when someone who has known you for years still gets it wrong!

Teapig · 21/02/2013 22:18

Yup, it's Arabic, it means 'pure'. I'm sure in many parts it's quite a familiar name but we are based in England and have no Arabic connection, just really like the name.

badtime one of my concerns was that people would spell/say it as Sofia regardless. The alternative spellings might help, thanks for that tip.

sw I think it's pronounced sa-FEE-ya.

missy, love the Eastenders point. I don't think I mind but need to think about that some more.

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