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Really like Henry but already have a Harry - help!

132 replies

Spellcheck · 05/01/2013 10:32

Please can I have some opinions on this! Expecting my DC4 (DP's 1st) in a few weeks. It's a boy, and we are really stuck for names. I am a teacher and therefore most names remind me of some of the children I teach so I don't want them as they are already 'taken' IYSWIM. The only name we really, really like is Henry.

However, my first son is Harry. It's a name in it's own right, I didn't call him Henry and shorten it, so surely as they will both have different surnames, it would be ok to call DS2 Henry?? Some friends have called the idea into question, and now I've thought about it so much I can't think straight.

What would you think if a friend did it? Or should I say sod what everyone thinks and go for it anyway?

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ArtigeneAuberchoke · 05/01/2013 21:41

My DD1 is 6. There are two boys called Harry in her class, both are Henry on official documents so I would strongly argue it is not old fashioned to see it as the same name.

LittleDonkin · 05/01/2013 21:08

I have never heard of Harry being used as a nickname for Henry and assumed they were standalone names. I wouldnt think it was strange at all.

StellaNova · 05/01/2013 19:18

The thing is, even if you don't think they are the same name - and I can see how opinions change, Sally used to be short for Sarah I believe but we'd probably see them as different names now - Henry may get nicknamed Harry later in life. So its like having a Charles and a Charlotte and ending up with two Charlies, or a Phillip and a Phyllis and ending up with two Phils.

Having said that there are twins in an Enid Blyton book called "the two Harries" because they are Henry and Harriet, so Enid is behind you, and in the end its up to you of course!

DontmindifIdo · 05/01/2013 18:59

Thing is, at 13 your ds is too young to get they are the same name, but he won't always be! Honestly, pick your ds2 a name of his own.

Spellcheck · 05/01/2013 17:42

Thanks for ALL feedback - as it happens Harry is 13 and came up with Henry himself for DS2! He sees the names as entirely separate, and Harry as a name in its own right, though he knows Harry is sometimes used as a derivative of Henry, so no need for rude comments re him being hurt, etc. All of us are having a say in the choosing of Baby's name. You've all brought up opinions we'd considered, but always good to get objective opinions because as I said in my OP, we just can't think straight about it any more!

Thanks again y'all.

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nkf · 05/01/2013 17:05

I think one is a nickname for the other. So if a friend did it, I'd think she didn't know many boys' names. But, sod what everyone else thinks and doing it anyway is a perfectly valid choice of action.

Ephiny · 05/01/2013 17:02

I think it's a bit different if its a dog - it's not like Milly/Meg the dog is going to be upset by having the diminutive version of another family member's name! Also, it's not really a big deal to change a dog's name if you really want to.

And yes, sadly dogs are not with us for very long, if you think long-term :(

GoldPlatedNineDoors · 05/01/2013 17:01

Oooh my dd is called Meg! Love it!

littleacceb · 05/01/2013 16:59

@Alisvolatpropiis - DH charmingly pointed out that Meg probably only has another 8-10 years on her, so it's ok. Way to make a pregnant woman cry...

We'd probably shorten to Maggie, but it's actually just dawned on me this moment that Maggie is my aunt's dog's name. Oh well, what with my husband and my mum's dog sharing a name, it can just become our family tradition or something!

@TessOfTheBaublevilles - very good point! Just thinking of a well-spoken Henry at school who was devastated at being called "posh" and insisted that everyone call him Harry. Last I saw on FB, he goes by Henry as an adult.

TessOfTheBaublevilles · 05/01/2013 16:47

DS1 is Jack, at the time I didn't like John, but over the last few years I've grown to LOVE the name John.

However, I would never use it, because however different the names might look and sound, Jack derived from John and therefore is the same name (so to speak).

Alisvolatpropiis · 05/01/2013 16:17

littleacceb I know what you mean there. Have a dog called Milly and it recently dawned on me I can never use Camilla now. Sigh. DP was delighted when I mentioned it though!

I think you could get away with Margaret though,she could be Maggie/Mags rather than Meg?

littleacceb · 05/01/2013 16:08

Obviously you are making the decision with full understanding of the situation, but it's tricky because to use both names might imply a lack of knowledge on your part, which can be embarrassing for children as they grow up.

Not quite the same, but... We're considering Margaret but our dog is named Meg and it's making me feel slightly uncomfortable.

SauvignonBlanche · 05/01/2013 16:01

It's the same name IMHO.

Astley · 05/01/2013 15:58

Yeah that is it, it feels a bit lazy, like you only read one page of the baby name book Grin

AlexanderS · 05/01/2013 15:57

They come from the same root and for that reason I couldn't. I know somebody who has called their DDs Ellie and Ella and when I posted about that on here to find out if I was the only one who finds that a bit Shock the unanimous verdict was that they are essentially the same name (as they are both derived from Eleanor), it was kinda lazy/uncreative and it isn't fair on the kids.

There are thousands of names out there, you will find another one you like!

Astley · 05/01/2013 15:51

My 2 cents is that as a parent to a Henry it is one of my greatest regrets. I kick myself everytime I see the class list, he is one of 5 in his class :( I am so very, very annoyed with myself that I didn't pick something else, I hate that he is the 'Sarah' of his generation. I can think of so many other names now! The other day I even had someone say 'oh great, another Henry' and I realised I am that person with no imagination :(

Secondly we don't shorten, but DD can't say Henry even at 2 1/2 and says 'Harry', so if we had a Harry too, that would be seriously weird.

bananaramma · 05/01/2013 15:42

Harry is a nickname for Henry. I would not name my son Henry if I already have a Harry!! How would Harry feel if his little brother got his name (whereas he 'only' got the nickname version)? I honestly wouldn't - there must be another name you like.

SuperChristmasScrimper · 05/01/2013 15:38

I think this must be like a reverse AIBU... I bet the husband has suggested it Grin I just can't really imagine a fully grown woman, and a teacher to boot who must know how children are with names really thinking it would be a good idea to give her 2 sons pretty much the same name. Especially as she is the Mother of both so would know how weird/hurtful it would be for her DS1.

So my bet is she will back on to say she wrote it to prove to her husband that it was a crazy idea!

TidyDancer · 05/01/2013 15:11

I really wouldn't do it.

The majority of people will make the connection with them being the same name, especially with Prince Harry being the most famous example of this.

It's a shame as I like both Harry and Henry. DP and I are TTC and Henry is firmly on our boy list.

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forgottenpassword · 05/01/2013 15:04

I wouldn't do this as I think it could be frustrating for your boys. It is them who will have to live with the confusion if there is any so I think better not to take the risk. Perhaps they won't mind but why take the risk?

ThreeBeeOneGee · 05/01/2013 14:59

If you like the name Henry so much, perhaps you could give it as a middle name. It would look like a sort of homage to your DS1.

ThreeBeeOneGee · 05/01/2013 14:55

I met someone a few years ago who had two sons called Henry and Harry. Every time I saw her, all I could think about was the fact that she had unwittingly given her two children the same name. To do this knowingly would be completely incomprehensible to me.

thegreylady · 05/01/2013 14:50

I'd ask your ds1 and if he doesnt mind go for it.
I know when dh and I thought we were having a baby 23 years ago we were talking about names and wanted Thomas [the full name] however dss1 who is Tom was distraught at the idea and we abandoned it-we werent expecting anyway and never did have a joint dc.

TessOfTheBaublevilles · 05/01/2013 14:49

What about if 'Henry' wanted to go by Harry when he's a bit older? There are several boys at DS1's (13) school who are called Henry, but go by Harry, including one of DS1's friends. DS's friend says he prefers Harry as it's more informal/relaxed, whereas Henry is his 'posh formal name'.

Your potential Henry wouldn't have that choice. Well actually he would, but it would mean you'd have two sons known as Harry!