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How would you pronounce Oisin?

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soapnuts · 10/09/2012 05:41

I know all the books say Ush-een (which I don't like - sounds like a girls name to me) but I've known a couple of people with the name who pronounce it Osh-in - which I love!

DH is Irish and pronounces it the first way but agrees with me that he loves it the second way. All our family is in Ireland (though they will pronounce it the way we tell them!) but we live abroad (in a very international community) and our son is likely to not be living in Ireland as well. DS1 also has an Irish name that is pronounced slightly differently than it is spelt (though much closer and it wasn't intentional!) and it's never been a problem.

So how would you pronounce it? If you wanted it to be Osh-in, how would you spell it? Or are we just storing up problems for ourselves and DS?? We're really struggling with other names we agree on!

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mathanxiety · 11/09/2012 15:19

There really isn't an Irish pronunciation of Oisín that doesn't have the EEN ending.

It's not a question of differing Irish regional pronunciations.
And it really is very clearcut -- all the people you have heard calling it Osh-in have been wrong.

The EEN ending doesn't connote a feminine name in Ireland as it does with names of French origin that are used in Britain (and France). It is used for both boys' and girls' names as a fond diminutive and means 'little' => 'sweet' => 'darling' (for instance Páidín/Paudeen = an affectionate way of addressing someone named Patrick/Pádraig).

With Oisín, the EEN ending doesn't have the 'little' meaning, however; it's an inbuilt part of the name, not a suffix.

I recommend going with the Welsh version too.

TittyWhistles · 11/09/2012 10:34

I know someone whose ds is called Ossian

Always sounds like "Ocean" when she calls him and I thought this was the spelling til I wrote his birthday card and got told off for it

squoosh · 11/09/2012 10:26

It really is as clear as the books make out to be honest, it's pronounced Uh-sheen. I've met lots over the years and they've all pronounced it this way. Maybe the Oisíns you knew weren't Irish and their parents made a mistake re. pronunciation?

Going for the Welsh version sounds a good idea though as that's much closer to the sound that you like.

soapnuts · 11/09/2012 01:38

It's not Ocean - I wouldn't call a child that personally. And it does seem to be officially it's ush-een but all the Oisin's I've known have pronounced it Oh-Shin/ Osh-in.... but hubby has always pronounced Ush-een too so it's not as clear cut as the books would have you think!

the fada is just never going to happen when we live - DS1 has a double barrelled surname and that causes enough problems and that's just hyphenated! If I were in Ireland I'd totally use it but where we live - well just no chance - to be honest I think we'd struggle to get it on the birth cert!

I think we might have to go towards the Welsh version.... lots and lots of Welsh names on my side so wouldn't be out of place.

Thanks for all your help - very useful!

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CatholicDad · 11/09/2012 00:17

It's Uh - sheen. Although I do know Irish people who have pronounced it more like Osheen and I tend to say it "Usheen" - but then I'm not Irish. Our poor Oisín has had his name said in so many ways - Oshin, Oyzin, Wuzzin (someone thought it was French! and related to oiseau..!)

Mind you, it can't be Oshin, as others have said, because of the fada or accute accent on the second "i" which makes it long.

Whether you like the name depends on you. But the story behind the name is pretty stirring, I always think. Fionn Mac Cumhaill, the great Irish warrior, married Sadhbh (pronounced "Sive") who was transformed into a deer by a spell while pregnant with his child. She was lost to him for seven years but then one day Fionn heard there was a deer in the forest his hounds would not hunt.

He went out to see for himself and sitting by a doe in a clearing in the forest was a young boy. He immediately recognised the child as his own and gave him the name Oisín, which means "little deer".

chipmonkey · 10/09/2012 23:53

It's Uh-Sheen. It would set my teeth on edge to meet one pronounced Ocean, tbh.
Like Caitlin. It's not supposed to be Kate-Lynn, it's supposed to be Kathleen.
But me being annoyed about that hasn't made any difference.

Mollydoggerson · 10/09/2012 23:17

I think if you want to name him ocean, then name him ocean, but Oisin is pronounced ush-sheen

WhatYouLookingAt · 10/09/2012 20:48

I'm in Ireland and know lots of them, always always always Uh-sheen, thats the sound the letters make, you can't just change them.

I once met a girl who said her same was Sierra. (See-air-a). Except she wrote it down and it was Ciara....the letters just don't make that sound!

TiggerWearsATriteSmile · 10/09/2012 20:44

I'm typing on an iPhone. Press and hold the letter you want to add the fada to. It will give you different options, including fadas.

Badgerina · 10/09/2012 16:28

I'm pretty sure you can type a fada on an iPhone. Also, the number of people who don't use basic punctuation when they text will mean that it's fairly immaterial anyway. But anyway, it's your choice Smile.

aufaniae · 10/09/2012 14:29

I would have thought Fionn and Osian was OK?

I'd shy away from Osian and Nia / Oisin and Niamh, as they were actually a couple, but I just see the names Fionn and Osian as simply being from the same myths, rather than a pair.

But I'm not Irish so happy to be told if I'm massively missing the point here!

Maryz · 10/09/2012 13:45

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soapnuts · 10/09/2012 13:02

Well just to complicate matters, DS1 is a version of Fionn (pronounced Finn ..... cos my DH doesn't know his Irish pronunciation well enough!! but I still love it!) so DS1 would be the father of DS2!!

Badgerina - We're an international family - it's got to work internationally (while still being Irish/Welsh/English) so fadas are just not going to work - I'm sorry if that's bad but I'm making it hard enough for the poor child without making it impossible to write on an iPhone!

I've just shown DH this thread and I think he might be convinced on the Welsh version!...... you have no idea how much of a miracle that is!!

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Badgerina · 10/09/2012 12:01

Oisín - it's a fairly iconic Irish name (he was the legendary son of Fionn mac Cumhaill wasn't he?) So I personally don't think you can "leave off the fada". What's the point of choosing a traditional Irish name if you're going to mess around with it?

squoosh · 10/09/2012 11:32

Uh-sheen, anything else is wrong.

aufaniae · 10/09/2012 11:22

Ah, it's a beautiful name, go for it :) It just might have been the only one for me too

I don't reckon two "an"s matters. Loads of people have two girls with names ending with an "a" aound, or boys with names ending with an "er" sound.

I would say it means they go together!

soapnuts · 10/09/2012 10:59

Tigger I totally see what you mean but until my DH "corrected" me, I had only come across people pronouncing it O-shin (ie how I want to pronounce it) ..... and I listened to him about how to pronounce DS1s name and apparently that depends on where in Ireland you are too! I honestly can't come up with anything else I like as much. I have a name that can be pronouced (correctly) two ways (and most people pronounce it a third, incorrect way!) but it's never really been a problem for me!
.... I could very easily be convinced into the Welsh Osh-An but DS1 has "an" at the end of his name so it could be a bit rhymey!

You're all being very helpful - thank you!

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TiggerWearsATriteSmile · 10/09/2012 10:08

Call him something else.
Hi, my name is taffy. I know it's spelled tigger but My mother doesn't like that pronunciation so we say taffy. Yes, I know it doesn't make sense but that's my name, ok. ( and repeat.... A lot.)

CharlotteYork · 10/09/2012 10:05

I have a number of Irish friends with boys with this name they all pronounce
O shin

redpanda13 · 10/09/2012 10:03

Uh-sheen. Irish relatives so familiar with the name.

aufaniae · 10/09/2012 09:29

The Welsh version of the same name is spelt Osian and pronounced Osh-an.

babyblabber · 10/09/2012 08:59

Never heard any version other than Uh-sheen. Think it's a gorgeous name but doesn't go with our surname

soapnuts · 10/09/2012 08:43

Maryz - I see your point on the fada.... I was planning on leaving it off (so I guess not all that traditional) because we're abroad and it just would get to complicated trying to explain the fada..... would that change the pronounciation though?

aufaniae/Devadiva - how do you pronounce those? I've googled but I'm struggling with the pronunciation! We could definitely get away with using a Welsh name as we've got heritage that way too!

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IShallPracticeMyCurtsey · 10/09/2012 08:02

Chiming in to echo Maryz's explanation of how the name is traditionally spelled and pronounced here in Ireland. Never heard it any other way here.

DevaDiva · 10/09/2012 08:00

Oshan but I'm Welsh Grin

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