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has anyone else felt sad about baby not having your last name?

45 replies

kalidasa · 24/07/2012 11:15

We are expecting a little boy at the beginning of December. I have pretty much given in and accepted that he will have my partner's last name, but I do feel sad about it, in particular that it'll be only me without the name. (We are not married. We probably will get married at some point but even so I wouldn't change names as I publish under my name and it's important professionally.) We were both open to using both names in some way but they just sound ghastly together (both monosyllabic and to be honest my last name is quite ugly anyway!). DP's last name is objectively more attractive and also has the advantage that it appears to be British (my nationality) even though he is actually French (his nationality), so in a way represents both sides. It also has a strong family history for DP (his father and g'father are quite well known) and is significant to him as a result in a way that isn't really true for me.

But I still feel sad about it! Has anyone else been in a similar boat? Did you give your name as a middle name (seems a bit token but perhaps worth doing)? Or come up with some other solution?

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LeeCoakley · 24/07/2012 13:36

I wish we could start a new tradition where girls took their mother's name and boys took their father's. (In a two-parent situation). Just taking the father's surname smacks of superiority and demeans the mother's heritage. Although, of course, the mother's surname is her own father's name. Maybe all women need to call themselves something new and THEN we start the tradition of girls taking their mother's name etc. Tricky business. Grin

With regard to op's dilemma, if you feel sad then it needs to be talked about more. And as a middle name it is NOT a token.

squoosh · 24/07/2012 13:33

Then maybe you should try to be less dismissive of other people's decisions.

shimmy0 · 24/07/2012 13:26

I never once said I hold his Identity in a higher regard to my own, nor do I think that way whatsoever. I couldn't give a shit whether it's a global rule or not! The rest of the world has no bearing on my decision.

My surname is important to me, and so is my heritage. I don't need to give my child my name to prove this and taking my future husband's name will never make me any less of the person I am now. This child is mine no matter whose surname it has and that will never change.

RillaBlythe · 24/07/2012 13:22

I feel sad too OP. I have my mums surname & my dads name as a middle name, but for a variety of reasons the dc got my dp's name. We are married but I have not changed my name. The Dc have my surname as a middle name.

mamij · 24/07/2012 13:16

I felt sad DDs won't have my maiden name too. But accept that and will remind them of it at every opportunity Grin

squoosh · 24/07/2012 13:14

The poster was referring to using her maiden name as the child's middle name. I'm a bit confused as to why you think having a link to their mother's surname should be considered a burden.

Honest question. Why do you think that the father's identity should be held in superior regard? Children automatically assuming the father's name isn't a global rule.

nickelbarapasaurus · 24/07/2012 13:14

why have you "pretty much given in and agreed"?

My DH and I have different names, and we didn't double-barrel because my surname is Don, so a double barrel sounds like a mafia name.
we made up a brand new surname for DD, with my surname being the last syllable and the first part of his surname being the first syllable.

It works really well or us, and it means that neither of us has "won" her name (and her surname sounds pretty cool, actually)

shimmy0 · 24/07/2012 13:07

Because obviously her husbands mum and dad have her husband two or more surnames to cherish too I'm sure.

shimmy0 · 24/07/2012 13:05

I sure hope your own mother gave you both her own and her mothers maiden name so you could pass the whole lot to your daughter then she can quadruple barrel it along with her dads name and have one massive lot of heritage to admire every time she fills out a form!

squoosh · 24/07/2012 12:55

I fail to see how having the same name helps with the bonding process of adult and baby. Confused

'although the token of giving the surname as a middle name seems great, is it really a gift to the child or just something to make you, the mother feel good? This token probably won't be passed on from your child to his or hers when the time comes so is it really that important?'

Wow. The mother's name is as much a part of the child's heritage as the father's surname. (Can't believe that actually needs to be stated) So umm, yes, it really is important! Here's a suggestion shimmy how about if you ever have a daughter you don't bother giving her a surname, just wait till a nice man comes along and agrees to marry her and graciously bestow his name.

GemmaPomPom · 24/07/2012 11:54

... should have added that this incident made me change my mind about hyphenation and we changed it very easily through Deed Poll. Our DS now has 'Gemma's surname-DH's surname'. Sure, it's a mouthful, but it is important for children to know where they come from, and DS is proud of his roots on my side of the family. I am glad that we did it.

HipHopOpotomus · 24/07/2012 11:51

This is why I gave the DC's my name (with DP's surname as an unhyphenated third name).

BegoniaBigtoes · 24/07/2012 11:49

I have my surname and my partner and DC all share his name. I'm very happy that I have my own name (I also publish using it, but would keep it anyway even if married) - I like that it says I'm independent. I think women changing their names to their husbands' is insidiously sexist and not as harmless as people make out.

But about the kids - in an ideal world they would be double-barrelled or just have two surnames, one after the other, and they could choose which one, or which order, they preferred when older. Actually, we did not use my name for other reasons - it is very unusual and I didn't want them to be able to be searched for using my name (long story). But DP wants them to have his name and I can see why. Everyone knows I am the mum, I go through pregnancy, I give birth, I'm on all the records. Giving them his name is a mark of his connection.

Yes of course he could have a connection with them anyway, and you can have your dad's name even if he's not the biological father, etc etc. But for my DP, it makes him feel included and known as their dad, it's important to him - and I don't mind. They seem fine with it too. They know I have a different name.

Whenever I have to explain it to people I just feel happy that I'm not Mrs Husbandsname. Could you see it as a positive too?

However I think you could just give him your name as another surmane: Baby Middlename Yoursurname DPssurname

He may generally be known as Baby DPssurname but at least his full name would include yours.

booksandchoc · 24/07/2012 11:47

I gave my DD my maiden name, as a middle name because I have my mums maiden name as my middle name. My sister plans on doing the same with her DC and I will ask my DD to do the same (although I understand it's something she may not want to do)

GemmaPomPom · 24/07/2012 11:45

I do feel sad about it, in particular that it'll be only me without the name.

I felt like this. Particularly when my vile SIL (same surname as DH) sent a card to 'DH & DS Other Name & Gemma PomPom'. Inside were the words: 'Dear DH & DS, and Gemma'.

I felt horribly excluded.

shimmy0 · 24/07/2012 11:41

Different situation as you have said she's not his child. Completely different scenario entirely!

StrandedBear · 24/07/2012 11:38

Shimmy, I'm sorry but that's a load of shite. A name does not help a connection at all! DD doesn't have dps surname, she isn't even biologically his yet they have an amazing connection.

As for keeping your name, barrel it, or use yours as a MN, our next babies will be barrelled as I am not changing my name when we marry.

shimmy0 · 24/07/2012 11:38

Sorry I just want to add that although the token of giving the surname as a middle name seems great, is it really a gift to the child or just something to make you, the mother feel good? This token probably won't be passed on from your child to his or hers when the time comes so is it really that important? Just wondering.

shimmy0 · 24/07/2012 11:33

Im looking forward to registering my little one with its dads surname and I'm also looking forward to our wedding when we will all have the same surname in 2014 :-)
I think kids need already have a connection with mum and they need the dads surname as they need to have the bond with their dad and the surname can be part of that process. Besides double barrelled names can be really annoyingly long.
If the dad isnt in the kids life or is a real jerk or both then by all means the kid should have its mother's surname, but that's just my opinion anyway.