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Baby name "tactics"

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minipie · 30/05/2012 20:13

ok this is possibly a bit controversial so I am donning my hard hat.

I am 13 weeks pg at the moment. SIL is about 19-20 weeks.

DH and I have decided what names we want for a boy or girl (we were TTCing for nearly a year before I finally got pregnant and chose names quite a long time ago, and we still like those names best by far.)

I have a slightly irrational fear that BIL and SIL will end up using our preferred name, and we then wouldn't be able to use it. Our preferred names are relatively common (especially the boy's name), and of course we both have the same family member names to avoid, so that does increase the chance of this happening, though I realise it's still only a small chance.

For this reason, I'm considering mentioning our preferred names to them "in passing", so that they get the hint that those are "taken", as it were.

Is this wrong? Will it seem very weird if I do this? Should I just accept that SIL got pregnant first (despite starting TTCing much later) and so gets "first pick" of names?

What would you do?

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cakeismysaviour · 01/06/2012 15:48

Mind you, DP and I are both pretty strong-minded about this kind of thing and if we have picked a name, we have picked it and we don't give a stuff if anyone else uses them because we will use them anyway.

cakeismysaviour · 01/06/2012 15:45

Tell them. It will be a weight off your mind.

Badgerina - In your parent's shoes I would have used the name anyway and if your Dad's brother and his wife had said anything, I would have responded by reminding them that we had told them the name we were going to use and we haven't changed our minds. So if you don't like it, tough luck. Grin

minipie · 01/06/2012 15:35

Thank you Lunar Smile congrats on your DDs.

message Shock I really don't think BIL and SIL would do that to us... at least I hope not!

I think we will mention our chosen names, but wait till there is an opportunity to do so (eg when names come up in conversation/when we find out the sex) rather than bringing it up deliberately.

As many of you say, chances are our names aren't even on their shortlist so this will be a complete non-issue.

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lovechoc · 31/05/2012 20:41

I have never really understand why people feel the name to blab everything about their pregnancy and naming of their child (until the baby is born). Why not just keep it to yourself ? Why make an issue out of it by mentioning it after the 20 week scan? You open yourself up to a whole can of worms. Wink

Lunarlyte · 31/05/2012 20:40

I wouldn't play games or think tactically. Just be honest. As your pregnancies are so close together I'd have a chat with your bro and sis-in-law and talk names. It seems like the most sensible thing to do.

There are of course, many variances which will influence this: babes of different gender and/or completely different tastes!

FWIW, it took DH and I 9 months to conceive DD1 and 2 years (including 6 Clomid cycles) to conceive DD2, so I'm quite attuned what this much-longed for pregnancy must mean to you. Try not to take anything personally ?if? there's an issue with the soon-to-be-born cousin's names :) But I'm firmly on Team Minipie :)

messagetoyourudy · 31/05/2012 19:59

If you have your heart 'set' on the names you have chosen then I would have a honest chat to them - especially if you have chosen something like a name of a great grandparent - thinking old man/lady trend that is still popular.

I say this from my own experience, my BIL and SIL had their DS1 2 years before us but DH & I had already picked our potential childrens names. BIL announced they were calling their DS, Elliot, and my DH told them that we always like the name Wilfred after their late Grandad - cue them thinking 'What a lovely idea' and they changed their DS name to Wilfred!!!

Still annoying after 10 years!

parachutesarefab · 31/05/2012 19:39

If you're really worried, speak to them. Tell them the names you've chosen, and that way, if you're unlucky and they've chosen the same name, you can sort it out, between you, before the babies are born.

Worst case scenario, they've picked the same name. In which case, either of you "getting in first" by announcing the name could cause ill-feeling. So discuss it. Would one of you abbreviate it, and one not? Do either of you have other names you really like? (Middle names, name planned for second child??) You could still both use it.

I know cousins with the same name, step sisters with the same name and parents who give their kids their name (I've always though that last one a bit odd and too confusing, but it's their decision).

Chances are, they'll like different names anyway.

exoticfruits · 31/05/2012 19:18

We didn't tell anyone until they were born. I think it highly unlikely they would have the same one-unless you bring it to mind.

lovechoc · 31/05/2012 19:07

To be honest, even if you do decide a name and announce it at the 20 week scan, you'll look a bit daft once your baby arrives and you both decide 'actually he doesn't really suit that name now that we've seen him'. Some things are sometimes better kept to yourselves.

Lannie33 · 31/05/2012 16:24

I totally agree with girlgonemild's brilliant idea of announcing the name to the whole family after the 20wk scan. Then if they wanted that name, they'll mention it right then and you'll have to discuss it (ie they will get it because their baby will be born first). But if they don't say they had also decided on that name then you're golden and worry-free!

minipie · 31/05/2012 15:41

That totally is the logical view!

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lovechoc · 31/05/2012 15:30

Agree with you there othersideofchannel. That's the logical way of looking at it.

othersideofchannel · 31/05/2012 13:43

I wouldn't say anything. Given how many thousands of names there are, it seems very unlikely that your bil will choose the exact same name as you're considering anyway.

minipie · 31/05/2012 13:11
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SLVC thanks for your experience, that sounds like the closest to our position (except your DB and SIL is DH and me, if that makes sense).

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lovechoc · 31/05/2012 12:36

Best to say nothing, IMO. If you say something it could end up getting ugly later on.

evamummy · 31/05/2012 12:26

Haven't read all the replies but in my opinion you cannot 'reserve' a name. Let your SIL and her dh choose the name want for their child. If your baby is born afterwards, choose another name! There are thousands of lovely names to choose from.

SLVC · 31/05/2012 12:06

I had my DS a month before my brother and his wife had theirs. We all kept our names a secret until the births, but had had many conversations about whether we had picked any out. Once DB and SIL had chosen a name (while we were still deciding from our short list ) I asked them for the initial so we could make sure there wasn't a match. There wasn't, but had there been I would have happily crossed it off ur short list.

I never considered this as a huge problem, and it was all done happily and with no hint of ill feeling.

Just start up the conversation of baby names and the chances of you both liking the same ones. No need for secrecy or waiting for scans etc. after all - their 20 week scan will be coming first!

minipie · 31/05/2012 11:29

thanks all! yet more differing responses Smile

Grin howcomes at calling the baby Tactics - perhaps as a nickname ...

I think we will go with the "calling it X from the time we know the sex" option.

Of course it's possible that BIL and SIL might announce their name before we get to know the sex/mention the name - in which case it's just tough for us, and we'll have to find a new name if theirs is the same.

Or, even if we mention our name first, they could still say "oh that's the name we had chosen too" in which case we'll have to toss a coin have a grown up discussion about it.

I just think (and hope) the most likely possibility is that they are still at the shortlist stage, at most, and so if we mention our name, the worst that happens is they have to cross it off their shortlist and choose something else. I've done this with several names as friends have used them, and it hasn't bothered me as I was still at the shortlist stage, iyswim.

No-one owns a name and they are free to use the same name as us if they want. I'm not one of those people who thinks it's unforgiveable if someone uses the same name. But I'm sure we'd all prefer our DCs to have different names especially given we and they are going to be seeing a lot of each other!

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emmyloo2 · 31/05/2012 08:39

Oooh I wouldn't mention the names. Chances are you will either have different sexes or they won't use yours. And if they do, you know what, you probably won't want to use it anyway. Because it will become the name of their baby if you know what I mean.

I understand the fear though. My SIL is having a baby in January and I am not even pregnant and I am terrified they may use one of our baby names. And our tastes (I suspect) are completely different so there is virtually no chance they will choose one of "my" names. But if they do, there are plenty of other names out there to choose from.

Badgerina · 31/05/2012 07:18

If you're close, a conversation about the name you've chosen after your 20 week scan should be fine and will get the point across.

DH and I have friends (very close friends) who are due about 2 months after us. We've discussed names openly, and there is an understanding about the names we've all chosen (ie they're OURS). It's fine Smile

HOWEVER, my Mum and Dad did this with my Dad's twin brother and his wife, who were due 6 weeks BEFORE them (both expecting boys). Mum and Dad mentioned the name they had picked out for my brother after the scan, and My Dad's bro and wife used the name when their baby was born! Angry It has caused a lot of bitterness (that of course has never been discussed because my family are fucked up Hmm)

howcomes · 31/05/2012 02:24

Ha ha, when I saw the thread title I thought you might have been suggesting tactics as a name!

Like others have mentioned we also referred to ds by name after the 20 week scan.

Congrats on your pregnancy!

Doitnicelyplease · 31/05/2012 02:14

I think you should let go of the idea that you can truly have 'dibs' on a name, whether you chose it when you first met or first TTC. Maybe your SIL also had name discussions years ago and has hers pick out too.

All you can do it wait until your scan, hopefully find out the sex, and if you are certain of the name then announce it properly to everyone then.

When your SIL has her scan soon, she may or may not do the same, and you will just have to cross-fingers that she does not have the same names as you do.

I do understand your predicament though, one of our favourite names is fairly common (top 20) but so far no one in our immediate or wider circle has used it, and I have been a bit nervous that someone might steal it from under me! But I also accept that if that happened there are other nice names out there and it really is not the be all and end all of having a baby.

WWYB · 30/05/2012 23:38

We were in a similar position, so once DH and I had agreed that they really were our definite boy and girl choices we made sure all in the family knew that if it was a boy they would be XXX and if they were a girl they would be YYY.

Basically, we called dibs on the names. They could have chosen the names if they really wanted but they knew we had already decided and announced so they would have had to be sure we would change our plans if they used one of 'our' names.

Don't just mention it in passing, if you really don't want them to use those names tell everybody!!

frutilla · 30/05/2012 23:29

Here's what you can do.....when I had my scan, the scanographer (or whatever the word is) typed my baby's name so it appeared on the print out right next to his picture. You could ask the scan person to do that and then show your SIL the scan and maybe point out the name and say how nice it was they did that for you....

StepOutOfSpring · 30/05/2012 20:59

They might have already decided as well, though.

I just don't see what the purpose is of telling them the names, if it's not going to affect your choice or theirs?

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